The internet is a joke for chemtrails, especially with the forums. People need to seek out and share the best evidence. This has nothing to do with snobbery. If people can't be for real, that hurts the cause. Carol Rosin hurt the cause. Educate-Yourself and the Idaho Observer have hurt the cause. Chemtrail Central has devastated the cause.
Today we got hit. There were "HAARP" looking clouds. There was one odd cloud with an orange-green colour. It wasn't an "earthquake light," and it didn't look like a rainbow. The bottom line is that the troposphere is being modified EVERYWHERE. These are dumbasses playing God.
We're in a period now where we are supposed to have intermittent rain for four days. Today we got a white-out with no rain.
This is interesting....go to the various weather sites; weather underground, NOAA, The Weather Channel, as far as we're concerned here in phoenix, the forecasts differ so much, it's comical. It's obvious that people are waiting for word of what the weather is supposed to be, as opposed to getting a reading from a common place, like the airport. Right now, the three weather biggies claim that Phoenix is currently 93 degrees and clear, 90 degrees and scattered clouds, and 82 degrees and cloudy (with only 13% humidity) and tomorrow will be 99 and sunny or 78 and cloudy with a chance of rain. It's truly out of control. But of course, NO ONE NOTICES!
I have to tell you this little nuance that happened to me when I was watching the weather channel about 5 years ago. This regular weather guy-can't remember his name-was forecasting late at night. And he gets to a certain place in the middle of the nation and starts saying "I'll tell you what weather they're expecting in Peoria, but it doesn't really matter anyway so I don't care!."
I was shocked! I looked around the room to see if anyone else caught that, but I was alone. They cut immediately to a commercial and I didn't see that weather man again, for years, until this year back on the weather channel.
I know it's just a little story that adds up to nothing. But in retrospect, I keep wondering if maybe he was bummed about having to make up weather and not actually be able to study and report it the way he was taught. At some point the national weather people had to be told "Look, you're just talking heads and you will say what we want you to say."
The local guys are just always confused about the "false radar readings" which of course was the biggest problem with "chaff" ,the predecessor to the aerosol formulas of today.
When people first started dating chemtrails, they said it was probably 1998 when they started appearing. So they told us, go through your old magazines and look at the skies. Well, remember I posted that it's important to define exactly what type of sky we're talking about: the "X"s cat's cradle sky, the long parallel widening plume sky, the white out, the HAARP cloud sky, etc. Well, I started finding that in movies like old Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Westerns there were weather modification skies-deserts with fake scattered clouds and a silver hued horizon.(Those movies were made in Italy). I started noticing weather modification skies in movies from the 60's and 50's. Now I thought originally, "that couldn't be, everyone says our irregular sky started in 1998." But, as I studied weather modification, I see they've been doing it since the 40's. Vigorously nationally and internationally since the 50's. You can see weather mod skies in many movies. Particularly those filmed in California, or any desert area. That's where those fake badly drawn clouds can't hide, they just fray away eventually.
Compare that to the skies in Dane Cook's employee of the month. It was a total white out in Albuquerque New Mexico every time they filmed.It made all the outdoor shots look dull. I wonder why cinematographers are not speaking up. If anyone would notice, it would be the guys who deal in lighting and framing a shot.
Gross Point Blank with John Cusak is from 1997. There is a scene in it in which he and Dan Ackroyd are somewhere just outside downtown LA talking and there's a shot with John Cusak and a huge chemtrail cross in the sky behind him. That's 1997.I'm sure the director thought he was being really hip framing the shot that way. Some people claim these are put in later-conspiracy theory?-or are we just noticing them now.
Take a look at the 1966 film "The Russians Are Coming!The Russians Are Coming! with Alan Arkin and Carl Reiner filmed in New England. The skies reek with classic weather modification clouds and sunsets. I was shocked to go back so far and see this. It meant the weather I grew up with-the great summer thunderstorms, winter snowstorms, and early frosts and thaws were probably lies. I can no longer look back fondly on my childhood weather, because I believe it was too late by the time I was born to see a natural sky, and like the children of today, I was being conditioned that these skies were normal.
Here's a link to the Weather Modification Experiments published in the journal of the WEATHER MODIFICATION ASSOCIATION:
Please check it out, you won't believe all the experimentation and the areas all over the world affected by this frenzy. And these are by no means all of the experiments, that's the scary thing.
I realize it's important to differentiate between chemtrail skies and weather modification skies. I'm not sure that people are recognizing the difference or qualifying it. In my last post, I realize that even though I didn't differentiate between chemtrails and weather mod skies, my point was that they can sometimes run together. The chemtrails or blatant "cat's cradle" aerosol skies appeared later, in my opinion than the blatant awkward clouds of weather mod skies, but it's important to realize that chaff (which gives false weather radar readings) has been used and experimented with since WWII, and it's function was electromagnetic. It's purpose was originally to jam radar systems.
The chemtrails that we find so upsetting and obvious have much to do with the missile defense shield, electromagnetic operations (including HAARP), cloaking, and super communication "over the horizon".
But we must note the commonality between the substances that would have to be used in both types of operations: metals and synthetic plastics.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:18 am Post subject:
cpellatt wrote:
I realize it's important to differentiate between chemtrail skies and weather modification skies.
This is very important as you say Carole.
Here in Europe chemtrailing is normal.
In my country of origin, Uruguay, no chemtrails, but weather modification skies are the rule (i.e. "halo" around the sun).
Thanks for the posts. Sorry to say this, but I am approaching the burned-out stage. This place has picked up pretty good, but it still feels like too much pressure on myself. I feel let down. People say they will post more, then they don't. There are all the good lurkers who never contribute. If this forum fizzles, it won't be my fault.
A half year to two years ago, I would have rattled off plenty in response. The energy just isn't there for me of late. I'm sorry.
Isard, yes, you brought up an important point. When I was in China this September I saw no chemtrails past the international date line. When I was in China-no chemtrails. But I could see for a fact that weather modification was going on.
The same for South America. When I was there last (it was a few years ago, so things may have changed), I saw no chemtrails, but definite signs of weather mod. I will be going back within a few months so I will be able to update that one) .
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Saturday Chemtrails
It should be blue skies right now. About an hour or two ago chemtrails were dropped on us, estimated at around 20-30,000 feet. Sometimes it is quite obvious when the skies are being "mitigated." Isard and Cpellatt make very important points above, that "weather mitigation" is not just about chemtrails. We make a big mistake if we only focus in on these trails. That would be like 9/11 truthseekers who only focus in on one anomaly. {Not trying either to open up that can of worms.}
For example, many observers have posted about seeing chemtrails above when overcast skies have started to clear. Others have noticed that chemtrails can be often seen filling in the openings.
Another way to look at this is that when the skies are overcast, we don't have a clue what is going on in the sky, from the overcast to the upper atmosphere.
In 2006, exactly two years ago today, myself, CrystalRose, and many others reported major chemtrail operations. There is even a thread in this section where folks can see how myself and CrystalRose first clicked at Chemtrail Central. We were on the opposite sides of America, yet we experienced the same type of onslaught.
When such total chemtrail operations are in effect, it is very easy to prove that chemtrails are real. The ptb's are insidious. They do not advertise the chemtrailing. They do try to hide their activities. Unfortunately for them, this is impossible. So, imho, they like to create the overcasts as non-discreetly as possible and then maintain it. Chemtrails are not just about what they look like, but are really more about what they evolve into.
Chemmies need to diversify their approach to promoting exposure and accountability. Photographs and videos have been effective. Yet, without in-depth analysis to accompany such evidence, chemmies may find themselves running in idle with some simplistic chemtrails versus contrails thread. Paid debunkers like it that way. They like to promote enigmas.
The tide is turning. Claims that we have been suffering clouditis no longer hold up. This is why we have seen the psychological operation evolve into one where we are supposed to believe that chemtrails are really contrails interacting with climate change.
Open-minded debunkers are not an obstruction to exposing and stopping the chemtrails. It is the paid posters along with their useful idiots who are in the way. If they own the turf, there is no point in engaging with them. If we own the turf, I think we should allow debunking, but only if it is sincere.
Yesterday I saw some suspicious trails over an hour or two. Today, it is more of an in your face obvious. It is hot out. A few hours ago the skies were completely blue. They started out with a few trails here and there. Thin, long trails expanded into big fat sky cover. Today appears to be a slow and steady approach to whiting out the sky.
I went for some groceries. I was three for three when polling some strangers about the sky. They knew what I was talking about.
{on edit- around 5:30 pm. They stopped again right after the morning. The sky is now blue except for a white-out of the sun. It just shows that when it is pure blue out, only a full force dispersal will white-out the whole sky. I think they are getting worried that it is now widely known that chemtrails isn't some crazy hoax.}
{on 2nd edit- it's nearing 7 pm, as it starts to get within an hour or two of sunset, they blitzed the western part of the skies. It appears like they had a few shifts today, 9am to 12pm, then this early evening shift- quite insidious of them, but still obvious.}
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