All Aircraft Are Not Involved

I'm still in email contact with CrystalRose. She is one of the few real people I met through the chemtrail boards.

CrystalRose wrote: We've been absolutely bombarded with chemtrailing in the the last few weeks. It's disgusting. I have other chemtrail contacts, so I've been keeping up with it as I can. It just seems most people either don't want to hear it, are in complete denial, or give you that "new-agey" thing of not wanting to get into the "negativity" of it -- it drives me friggin' bananas. I am still very upset about it and talk to people about it whenever I get the chance. It's outrageous.

She, like others, just hasn't been into chemtrails on the internet as I have. I'm trying to explain to her how the planted kookiness is used against us, how the internet could be the real obstacle as we seek out disclosure and accountability. She was driven off of Chemtrail Central by a closed-minded debunker and a crazy believer. I see no other explanation. There is a social-psychology of a sinister kind in place. It is utterly frustrating and perhaps impossible to build up any kind of awareness of chemtrails through the internet. Because at some point, one is forced into contact with convolution.

I may be a bit eccentric, the good kind, but I am for real and quite sane. The reason I was attacked so much was because the "dark side" likes to put out peace movement fires before they ever have a chance to grow. They were effective in circumscribing me into the noise. I'll grant them that. Yet, in a way, they have failed. There is merit to the idea of pockets of awareness. I am proud to have developed some of those. Chemtrails on the internet is a rigged operation. But a few of us saw right through that and did our best to spread the truth.


Today in Massachusetts, a bunch of chemtrail "strips" have been plopped down towards the sun. The chemtrailing is a very subtle enterprise. Except for rare occasions, such as with the Memorial Day Weekend, 2006, where a full chemtrail assault took place, most of the time the white-outs are more sophisticated. Like picture someone taking their time painting one side of a house. A bit of primer is placed here and there. Then a bit more. Before one knows it, there is whiter sky in that one area.

The key to understanding how chemtrails continue to be dispersed yet are seen as ordinary contrails, is because of the massive disinfo presentation placed on the internet. That I am sure of.

There is just no way to white-out total blue skies without making it obvious that such activity is deliberate.

Noon Report

We're getting hit right now pretty good, I mean heinously bad, with weather/uv-b ray mitigation. It truly looks like there is some kind of Air Force training going on. Massive trails are being dispersed, some from horizon to horizon, others stopping after reaching a rare cloud. It's as if some people don't want the sun to shine today.

The aircraft involved are white jets, and the stuff is spewing out strong from near the tails. One trail has a sharp, 150 degree turn. From the naked eye, the trails appear to be at approximately 25-30,000 feet.

According to the atmospheric soundings, there does seem to be the necessary humidity levels to account for the possibility for persistent trails. But then I wonder whose planes are these, where did they take off, why the strange routes, and why do all the planes look the same?

Anyone can try this at home. Just remember to click on the weather station nearest you, convert meters into feet, and then check out the Appleman contrail chart.


I'm getting better at reading it. It does appear that at 9250 meters, conditions are present for persistent contrails. What I find noticeable about the chart is how precise and small the range is by which persistent trails can form. Things have to be just right, with the humidity usually in the range of 60 to 70 percent. Anyway, I do suggest folks try this every time they can, because if the conditions aren't there, neither should the white-outs.

There were only so many jets producing these monstrosities. Which begs the question, why aren't there even more of these so-called persistent trails? Why are certain white jets flying in the area most conducive for trails to form? Why did that one jet make a sharp 150 degree turn? Why were the trails forming in between the sun and the earth and not towards the other side away from the sun?

I think the Appleman chart is like juggling. But even a scientific numbnut like me is starting to catch on.

It is now after 2:00 p.m., and the sky is an ugly mess. There are totally blue patches away from the sun, which to me, are further circumstantial evidence that this white-out was deliberately manufactured. There are also now parts of the sky which have HAARP-like attributes. There are what i think might be called popcorn clouds, and there are also the signature gravity-wave lines. How dare they do this without our consent? Why do the ptb's hate America and democracy so much?

Report from Uruguay, South America.

In this area, no chemtrails are ever visible. I guess that is why ozone layer depletion, and its effects are more visible here.
Fall has officially started last Saturday, But weather today is VERY hot and humid, and no rain is forecasted until, at least, 6th of April. Today's weather was even abnormal in mid-summer, when i was a child.

This country is no longer a pure temperate climate, but rather a subtropical one. If i had to date the transformation, I'd said it begun around 1990.
Ozone has probably more influence in warming, than CO2 (which I do not personally think is a main factor at all). Also, I would like to say, to the people which state the Earth is "cooling", they should visit this region, to understand how winter (real winter) is gone...

We got some chemtrailing here. I first noticed it around mid-afternoon. The readings don't seem to add up one bit. But those are only taken twice a day. I'm thinking also that the ptb's like to use conditions that would enhance the white-outs. They can certaily muck up the skies with no cold temperatures and low humidity, but I also think they can use conditions to make it easier.

I'll try to take a look at the readings when they come out at midnight. Today's noon readings defy the Appleman contrail chart. Ideal conditions for persistent contrails are usually to be found in that 60 to 70% relative humidity range.

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Check out the noontime r.h. out of Chatham, Massachusetts. It was approximately 5 to 18% r.h. for the general tropospheric area where the suspicious white-outs are being witnessed. Today might be one of those days where the prerequisite conditions for persistent contrails were non-existent.

I looked at the midnight readings. If the time is off for my posting time, it's because I haven't changed the clock for the switchover from daylight savings. Anyway, it was definitely cold enough today for contrails, but the humidity for the altitude was around 20-30% tops, and according to NASA, persistent contrails usually occur between 60-70% relative humidity. The last times I checked the Appleman chart, the persistent, spreading trails seemed to fall within the range for such trails, though I do think it is easier for deliberate whiting out of the sky to occur under the right atmospheric conditions. It's like with making snow perhaps for skiing, in that the hotter it is, the more effort it takes to produce for the ski slopes. I figure the analogy is still good today, just replace the temperature variable with the humidity one. Those times the trails did spread out my last observations, the events still looked deliberate. The planes looked the same. They were going all sorts of funky routes and angles.

The sky cleared fairly soon. The stars were out tonight. My observations were based on just outside my home. I saw a number of persistent trails that spread out. It appears to me that there shouldn't have been any persistent contrails based on the low humidity.

The Bible says a 1/3 of the population will die. Have you ever wondered how? I'm guessing nukes or chemical warfare. Some guy from India wanted me to create a Web site for his company and when I showed up, I was horrified by the images on the wall. He was creating something that had such a fine mist that you couldn't see it. It could be put on planes, and in buildings. I asked him what he planned to do with the technology. He's a Defense contractor.

He was incredibly rude to me when I asked him what colors he wanted on the site (a typical Webmaster question). He raised his voice asking me if I had a problem with his accent. I told him no. I was just trying to find out what his preference was for his site. He continued on telling me they are here to stay in America and they have extreme intelligence, phd, highly educated. (And I'm thinking, big deal you can't even tell me what you want on your Web site).

He continued on and on about how we better get used to their accents and the fact that they're in our country. All I could look at was the photos on the wall and the mist being sprayed out.

After several minutes of nonsense, I stood up to leave and told him I couldn't do business with him. He got mad at that, too. I don't know if he ever found a Webmaster or not.

Another Defense contractor, also from India, was given secret clearance at an Air Force Base in Georgia. He wasn't qualified to do the job the military gave him. I know this for a fact because he stole my plans then had the audacity to call me up to tell me to help him implement the plans. I filed a GAO protest against the contract award. He offered me a substantial bribe to drop the protest, but I refused. The government worked to protect the company, and I am now in litigation. What scares me the most is that he and his partner (a huge Defense firm) is given security clearance when they are involved in fraud. In fact, one of the projects I saw was a contractor put code in a government project so that if the government tried to get rid of the contractor, the code would stop working.

Why is our government letting in foreigners and giving them clearance to sensitive information?

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think there's enough American soldiers that will turn on their own nation and kill us in a Martial law situation. However, I believe there are enough foreigners who hate us and have no problems killing us.

Is it possible foreigners are going to be used to police us?

I'm in TN and there weren't many chemtrails here that I know of...though, I've only been here a short time. I notice over Knoxville (I'm up in the mountains) there are a lot of the trails. I think of those pictures on the wall of that person from India, and I wonder how long before the technology is used for population control.

I am neither Republican nor Democrat. I believe both parties are working together. When you get a Democrat and a Republican going against each other in the polls, but are both members of Skull & Bones, I would say their loyalty is to S&B and the rest is just a front for "we the people"

SharkGirl wrote:The Bible says a 1/3 of the population will die. Have you ever wondered how? I'm guessing nukes or chemical warfare.

Have you seen the flick Glengarry Glenross? Substitute the word kool-aid for coffee at 1:20.



Put that kool-aid down!


In the old days of this forum, you would have been banned right away. But I have banned myself from banning anyone, except for worst case scenarios as with the JazzRoc troll for not debating fair.

Chemtrails have zero to do with depopulation plans. How would the "bad guys" protect themselves? I see further down in your post that you believe the folks after we the people are foreigners. Yikes. I guess I should let you know that I am a lefty peacenik. I believe in God. Yet, I'm feeling sad that someone like yourself would think we are doomed based on a work written by mortals many centuries ago.

Have you checked out the various links and info on climate change, geoengineering, and environmental modification techniques? I'm begging you to consider what are the most plausible explanations for the chemtrails. I do believe the activities are deliberate. I base this on both observation and the mucho sources proving the technology exists for creating fake cirrus.

Do you realize that there are gaping holes in the protective ozone layers? Have you heard of Gel Tech Solutions, formerly Dyn-o-Mat, which claims the ability to knock down the force of hurricanes?

Or are you set on chemtrails being about depopulation? Do you think they could also be used for mind control? Are there, cough, aliens involved? What's the point in trying to stop this anyway, if according to you and the Bible, a third of us are gonna be deliberately destroyed?

Some guy from India wanted me to create a Web site for his company and when I showed up, I was horrified by the images on the wall. He was creating something that had such a fine mist that you couldn't see it. It could be put on planes, and in buildings. I asked him what he planned to do with the technology. He's a Defense contractor.

Sorry, I don't believe you.

He continued on and on about how we better get used to their accents and the fact that they're in our country. All I could look at was the photos on the wall and the mist being sprayed out.

Oh no, run for the hills!!!1!111!!11

Have you a name for this company? How do you get from some "mist" being spread out in aircraft to how it can be sprayed in buildings?

What scares me the most is that he and his partner (a huge Defense firm) is given security clearance when they are involved in fraud. In fact, one of the projects I saw was a contractor put code in a government project so that if the government tried to get rid of the contractor, the code would stop working.

Why is our government letting in foreigners and giving them clearance to sensitive information?

So the problem is, according to you, that foreigners are infiltrating our military? Don't you understand, that unless someone is Native American, we are all essentially foreigners?

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think there's enough American soldiers that will turn on their own nation and kill us in a Martial law situation. However, I believe there are enough foreigners who hate us and have no problems killing us.

Is it possible foreigners are going to be used to police us?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are either disinfo or crazy.

I'm in TN and there weren't many chemtrails here that I know of...though, I've only been here a short time. I notice over Knoxville (I'm up in the mountains) there are a lot of the trails. I think of those pictures on the wall of that person from India, and I wonder how long before the technology is used for population control.

Have you read any of this website? Have you any awareness at all, that the few of us who joined forces out of Chemtrail Central and its offshoots are tired of the chemtrails are kooky meme?

I am neither Republican nor Democrat. I believe both parties are working together. When you get a Democrat and a Republican going against each other in the polls, but are both members of Skull & Bones, I would say their loyalty is to S&B and the rest is just a front for "we the people"

So let's see. First you say that the foreigners are out to get us. Now you are saying it's the Americans from Skull and Bones. While I personally do have a problem with how so many Presidents have been Skull and Bones, coming from Yale, and that there is a Bilderberger group which also has a profound influence on decisions which instigate wars and harmful economics for the poor and middle class, when you throw in too much conspiracy theory into the mix, you are alienating the masses of people who might otherwise question whether the gunk we are witnessing consists of deliberate dispersals.

You say you are neither a Republican or Democrat, but I took a looksie at your website and did notice you linking to Alan Keyes.

Now, the thing is this. I am not averse to folks who are not lefties posting here. Myself and Lophofo are kinda opposites in many ways. But we have a live and let live attitude with our differences.

I won't ban you. But could you take a look at the chemtrails are not kooky section to see what kind of angle we are coming from? Can you take a look at what our consensus says are the reasons behind the "weather mitigation?"

What if I went to your website and started ripping into your faith in the Bible? Would you allow me to remain?

We're trying to keep things real.

You see, if you're not careful, you end up sounding like this dude.



Or this dude.



While the whole time, if you really wanted to make a difference, it would be best to sound like this dude.



Or this lady.

Just to clarify a bit on the last post. I am no longer into banning anyone. When this place first opened up, and even after a while, I thought perhaps this would grow as a chemtrail forum. So I was quick to discharge anyone I felt was making chemtrails look kooky or was being an insidious debunker type. Now that I have no expectations for where this place is headed, I am trying my hardest to never ban anyone again. I did get rid of Jazzroc. But he was acting just like Foolsbane/Cydoniaquest. I haven't much if any time for old-school scripted debunking. It's not like those outlooks have been banned here. We even link to Patrick Minnis' NASA page on chemtrails/contrails. It's not like there is some major cover up going on here. I'm even leaving a .01% chance that chemtrails are contrails. 99.99% is where I am for thinking the white-outs are deliberate activity.

So all I can do is counteract in a civil manner anything posted that I think is kooky. Nothing personal to SharkGirl. Maybe I was a bit over the top and shouldn't have been so condescending. But it's the only way I can justify not banning someone like that.

May41970 has been invited to return. As has CPellatt. I was wrong to ban CPellatt. May41970, no, I was justified in that one. But now he is invited back. He just needs to be nice to people like Isard and Lophofo. He can disagree with them. Heck, it's gonna take a lot for me to want to ban anyone. If the place never picks up again, I'm cool with that too. Basically, I am at peace with the cyber world. Even myself and perverted_introvert have mended fences. He's more than welcome to pitch his tent in this space and let it rip.

CPellatt has a website called I see lines. We too have mended fences. Forgiveness is a beautiful thing. Not holding grudges is a beautiful thing. I think working in my favour has been my ability to admit when I have been a creep, and also, I believe I have been able to get through to the world my fundamental theories on both the chemtrails and the disinformation. Thus, I feel I have nothing to prove. And that goes to the few friends I made through all of this. You have nothing to prove. We have tried our best. We have made a difference. Shit happens, but things do get better. It's all about coming to terms with the enormity of the problem which is the status quo. It's tough not to end up banging our heads against walls. But I do believe that once we come to terms with it, we are able to continue onward with our chins up and most importantly, we are quite capable of making a difference.


Chemtrails in Arizona

There hasn't been much chemtrailing in Massachusetts. I am not complaining. The following images were taken by CPellatt from Arizona on March 11th, 2009. By the way, the recent news that Obama's Science Advisor is considering geoengineering is further vindication that chemtrails is not some crazy, science fiction, internet, urban legend. It's like when NOVA came out a bunch of years back with their program on global dimming. It was admitted right then and there that aircraft were producing white-outs. Thus, our bitching about chemtrails has served a purpose. Then the task becomes to show the newbies and fence-sitters the high probability that these are specific aircraft creating the white-out conditions. I sincerely believe that has been done.

Folks need to realise that the major chemtrail forums are a big waste of time. They were put in place to make the obvious seem like some gullible internet kookiness. That's my story, I've backed it up, it feels fairly transparent to me, and I have no regrets about my years as a chemmie. I want all the sincere folks who also have felt frustrated over the years to feel the same sense of peace I feel I have finally reached. It doesn't mean the fight is over. It just means that since the internet is rigged, there is no need to jump head first into the disinfo pool. Whether it's Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Chemtrail Central, Carnicom's, you name the place, they are filled with political operatives and lobbyists of every ilk. I believe our only hope left in regards to the net is to create pockets of awareness. That's really where my tinfoil resides. Chemtrails? Those are real. Is the internet swamped by fakes? It appears to be.


It's not just the trails that look dodgy. It's the white milk crap it turns into which is the most unsettling. I like CPellatt's work, because she is able to get good colour shots, where the white-outs can be seen to have been formed into pure blue sky.



One reason I believe HAARP-like technology is used is because of how efficient the white-outs are spread out. I used to think a lot about wind currents, but I don't think those alone could explain it. Lophofo gives a good layman's explanation of how HAARP could be used to spread out the chemstew.




Look at this next one. You can see how blue the sky should be. All the crap looks like it came out of aircraft. It appears to have been done deliberately. That's what I ask newbies and fence-sitters to remember if and when they witness this. Do those look like commercial jets? Does that look like something as a result of increased air traffic mixing with atmospheric conditions?






Anyone ever paint a house? If so, you know how systematic the work is. Does the following look like some natural result? Or does it look deliberate?







The end-product:

CPellatt may be returning to this forum but is very busy with 'real life'. She provided the following information.

I just got back from California and they were being nailed. Actually a three hundred and fifty mile stretch was nailed silver/grey and thick this weekend. It was disgusting...When I come up for air, I will try to make a presence in the forums.... You are always welcome to any photos or quotes from me. I know we're in this thing together.

Thanks for emailing.
very truly,
cpellatt