When you have a nutjob like Fintan Dunne calling out RawStory, BradBlog, and Bev Harris as fakes, it's tough not to back them 100%. Bev Harris is actually coming out clean for me, unless someone can prove that she's made tons of money and spent it on a lavish lifestyle. So let's forget about Bev. It's not like she has anything to do with Brett Kimberlin like the other two.
How does someone with a fifty year sentence for being a bomber get out of his sentence so easily? I have bookmarks of good stuff and will add to this thread as I can.
But back to Fintan Dunne. A few months ago I confronted him on why he was attacking Brad Friedman. He mentioned how the shady Curtis story propelled his career. I figured Brad built up some momentum at the Democratic Underground and simply was at the right place at the right time for success. However, this was before I connected the dots to Brett Kimberlin.
Here are a few links to get us started.
The classic article from TIME:
The Wizard of Odd
Oops, back to Fintan. Where does Fintan say one word about Brett Kimberlin. I don't see it. Kimberlin is even more devastating to the BradBlog's credibility than anything to do with the Clint Curtis story. Kimberlin's history is simply mind blowing. It goes well beyond any allegationg of selling weed to Danny Quayle.
MFL wrote:here's the money quote
So the book is called "All Too Human"
Here's an excerpt: The setting is that George is being "vetted" for the 92 campaign by Vince Foster and Webb Hubbell at the Governor's mansion in Little Rock.
""Well," I began, "you should know I'm the subject of a criminal investigation by the FBI." Republican complaints had forced a probe to see if I had conspired with Iran-Contra independent counsel Lawrence Walsh to damage the Bush campaign. I hadn't, but maybe it would lead to something else --like the time I tried to prove that Dan Quayle was a drug dealer.
In the fall of 1988, when the Dukakis campaign was going down the tubes, I was part of a "rapid response" team doing a remarkably ineffectual job of rebutting Republican attacks. But late in the race, a federal prisoner named Brett Kimberlin (aka the Speedway Bomber) was telling reporters he once sold drugs to Dan Quayle, and that Quayle might have sold some himself. A rumor reached me that years earlier, a grand jury examining the evidence had covered it up under pressure from prosecutors close to Quayle's family. If I could find the disgruntled grand jurors and convince them to talk, we'd win --and I'd be a hero.
So I bought a plane ticket to Indianapolis and holed up in the airport Holiday Inn with photocopied courthouse records. After a day of cold-calling people who had no idea what I was talking about, I knew I was on a fool's errand. My sleuthing wasn't illegal, just criminally incompetent and a little slimy. I suppose we would have used the information if it were true, but how naive and desperate could I have been to believe that I would uncover a last-minute bombshell that every news organization in America had missed? That was embarrassing --maybe not to President-elect Clinton, but certainly to me. "
Kimberlin is also known as the "Speedway Bomber." He was convicted of planting a bomb that ripped through a guy's leg and blew off some fingers. The guy later committed suicide. His wife said it was over the suffering.
Brett's daughter Kelsie recently won a Lego's Creativity Award for an antiwar project.
So, a synopsis: "Happy Springtime (Bush Is Over)" is more than five minutes of John 'n' Yoko footage, of birds fluttering past a billboard reading "Imagine Peace" and of beautiful children singing, cherubically, "Buuush is ooover!" which, incidentally, is also what their T-shirts say. "Bush Is Over. If You Want It." A credit at the end leads viewers to Justice Through Music, a civic engagement nonprofit run by Kelsie's father.
How will Brett explain to her that he was the "Speedway Bomber?"
Petitioner, Brett Kimberlin, appeals the district court's dismissal of his second petition for a writ of habeas corpus alleging that respondent, United States Parole Commission ("the Commission"), violated his due process rights by vindictively redetermining his parole release date and failing to show good cause for a substantial upward departure from the parole guidelines. 798 F.Supp. 472. Finding no merit in these arguments, we affirm.
Kimberlin was convicted as the so-called "Speedway Bomber," who terrorized the city of Speedway, Indiana, by detonating a series of explosives in early September 1978. In the worst incident, Kimberlin placed one of his bombs in a gym bag, and left it in a parking lot outside Speedway High School. Carl Delong was leaving the high school football game with his wife when he attempted to pick up the bag and it exploded. The blast tore off his lower right leg and two fingers, and embedded bomb fragments in his wife's leg. He was hospitalized for six weeks, during which he was forced to undergo nine operations to complete the amputation of his leg, reattach two fingers, repair damage to his inner ear, and remove bomb fragments from his stomach, chest, and arm. In February 1983, he committed suicide.
After being convicted of the bombings and related offenses, Kimberlin was sentenced to a fifty-year term of imprisonment for manufacturing and possessing a destructive device, and malicious damage by explosives with personal injury in violation of 26 U.S.C. §§ 5861(d) and (f), and 18 U.S.C. §§ 844(f) and (i). He received a concurrent twelve-year sentence for impersonating a federal officer, illegal use of a Department of Defense insignia, and illegal use of the Presidential Seal in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 912, 701, and 713, respectively, and a five-year term for receipt of explosives by a convicted felon in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 842(i)(1). Finally, he was given a four-year sentence by the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas on an earlier, unrelated conviction for conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
Kimberlin's sentences were aggregated by the Bureau of Prisons and, pursuant to 28 C.F.R. § 2.5, were treated by the Commission as a single aggregate sentence of fifty-one years, six months, and nineteen days. He received an initial parole hearing by a two-person panel of the Commission on July 28, 1988.
How does one exactly get out of a fifty year prison sentence. I am still piecing this story together. It's not exactly being advertised. Here is what seems to have happened, yet I am still working through the links to verify.
He seems to have been paroled when Bush got into office. He seems to have at one time impersonated some form of authority figure. Along with the nature of his offenses, it is not outside the realm of possiblity to think he may have been recruited by the dark side. You ever hear of cointelpro?
There is someone at DemocraticUnderground named TroubleInWinter who provided a lot of the dirt on Kimberlin. I do not like this person, but he or she did provide some good links in this thread. Most shocking, however, to me, is how Larissa at Raw Story came rushing to Brett Kimberlin's defense with a lot of seemingly inside information that she had no proof of which.
Uh-oh... THIS GUY!!!?
I recommend people look into this story for themselves. I have more things to link to, but I'm just for now gonna copy and paste some Larissa RawStory quotes from that thread. This is shocking.
you know, you read this
and you think you know... but I know Brett... and I know the story of his arrest and what really happened. he has been funding the voter fraud allegations, the afterdowningstreet people, etc... you simply don't know what you are talking about. oh, and he was also the same person who found Clint Curtis, and Diebthroat. wow, he must be a con man after all.
Voter fraud allegations? It's called election fraud. Voter fraud is what the Republicans talk up in order to purge Democratic voters.
He's funding AfterDowningStreet? Where does this guy get so much money? How did he ever get out of jail?????
He was the guy who found Clint Curtis? Wow.
I understand... I am not
trying to attack you, i am simply shocked to see this, that is all. the latst time this came up was in a threat made tot him over his protest of the baker/carter election commission. so i apologize if i seem to be in attack mode, i am not at all. i am just shocked and surprised. anyway, i agree that you have a right to ask questions and i provided the answer below down thread. i wish this whole post could be deleted because the man has been through a great deal already. anyway, sorry if i seemed to attack. not my intention.
What about the family of the man who killed himself because of what Kimberlin did as the Speedway Bomber????
Only say that he was wrongly convicted, released, sued the government and won. As part of the agreement, he cannot discuss the particulars publicly. By the way, the real interest in those articles calling him a con man is that no one points out that he was the guy who - during the Regan/Quayle election, who came forward and blew the whistle on Dan's little drug problem... see, Brett sold him dope. I wonder why a guy who sued the government and won would suddenly be a con man? Swift boat anyone?
Anyway, I know him. I vouch for him. The reason he has so little money by the way, is that he spends it all on promoting causes, like election fraud. He helps Brad Friedman, Clint Curtis, and so forth.
Take it or leave it, but for what it is worth, I vouch for him.
He was wrongly convicted? So he's been exonerated as the Speedway Bomber? Brett Kimberlin is a victim?
By the way, that above quote sounds a lot like the evoking of authority and also a form of brainwashing.
Yes, RawStory is starting to blip on my bullshit radar.
convicted wrongfully and he even served time for something he did not do while is attorneys fought the conviction... it was overturned, he was exhonirated, and then he sued and won!
he was put into jail because he was talking about Danny Quayle's drug habbit... welcome to Amerika
Wow. If I didn't know who the writer was, I would consider it some kind of freeper troll.
SheWhoMustBeObeyed wrote:His conviction for the bombings was overturned? I don't think so
In 1980, Kimberlin was imprisoned for his conviction in the 1978 Speedway bombings in Indianapolis. He was sentenced to serve 51 years.
In 1988, prisoner Kimberlin was put into detention in 1988 after he attempted to hold a press conference about selling dope to Quayle.
In 1993, Kimberlin appealed for his release because his parole, originally set for 1993, was reset for 1998 after Bush 1 was elected. It was later rolled back to 1994.
In 2003, Kimberlin sued employees in the Department of Justice and the Bureau of Prisons for unlawful denial of press access.
I have found nothing that says his original conviction for the bombings was overturned. Or proves that he sold dope to Quayle, for that matter.
I will have to leave it.
lala_rawraw wrote:ah, you are confusing dates
and the source on this is whom? i too shall have to leave it... clearly, he is a menace to society, that damn Rock the Vote, Justice Through Music, Velvet Revolution, election reform, civil liberties activist... as for finding no proof that he sold dope to Danny, well, i must say it his his word against Danny's, in the end... is it not? what proof would there be? a credit card stub? a money order? an invoice?
i have not denied he sold pot, in fact i actually said so... oh boy, those evil post sellers. but you are right... a man who has spent the last 17 years of his life doing work on behalf of the American citizen should be locked up forever for having sold pot.
Good people, feel free to read the rest of that thread. Here are some others. Shocking. And I should be able to connect some more dots as the days move ahead. I wanted to get this one started.
$250,000 Reward Offered For Information About Vote Fraud!
It appears the VR did have their promo for vote fraud at first but then fixed it.
Some food for thought:
Whistleblower reward used to uncover good guys and eliminate them???
jamboi wrote:Research has revealed that this Justice Through Music guy is the same person who spent a number of years in the Federal slammer for selling cocaine and setting off bombs in Indiana and he's the guy who claimed he sold marijuana to Dan Quayle!! Sounds like it is likely he did sell dope to Quayle since that has been confirmed by other sources. This vote scam reward group may be a Bushco operation to smoke out evidence and witnesses and destroy them when the Music guy's name comes forward. And is the "Velvet Revolution" involved in this? Here's an article that is relevant:
Ok, one last link for now. I am tired, and without the highspeed internet, it is just too difficult to get as much done as I have in the past.
Date / Time: 1/24/2008 1:00 AM
The L.A. Steel Show
Politically Independent talk show , activism, alternative news,and interviews with authors, activists, politicians and researchers. Tonight we interview Brett Kimberlin, the man behind e-voting investigations of BradBlog.com and the investigative internet journal Raw Story.com. Brett is a musician and was recently waterboarded for a music video. Interview is pre recorded.
So Brett Kimberlin is behind Raw Story and BradBlog?
What would be the best way to keep suspicions low about a place? How about if you had a crankpot called "Fintan Dunne" call them CIA rat fakes. Then one will quickly see that Dunne is the loser, and Brad and Larissa must be our new heroes.
I want to know how that guy got out of a fifty year sentence. This is beyond bizarre. This is not conspiracy theory. This is me, a nobody from Massachusetts looking through open source material and asking WTF?????????????????
I don't get paid to blog on the internet. I have no hidden agendas. I'm not gonna edit/proofread. It is what it is. It's like Last Name Left said the other day. The truth is something that can't be manipulated. I actually can't remember what he said exactly. But it sounded good at the time. It is what it is.
So that's how these people have become strawmen in themselves, through Brett Kimberlin and other assorted nonsense. It's not that their overall messages get debunked. Yes, elections were stolen. Yes, the neocons stink, etc.. But I am starting to think there is something big time fishy about Raw Story and BradBlog.