Hi BlueSkyHope, Welcome to the forum.
So everybody knows, myself and her have had a few email exchanges. She has been following the shenanigans going on at the chemtrail forums. Weatherman714 has come up on her radar. A question we are trying to figure out is whether people like him, Kevin Martin, and Lou Aubuchont are faking insanity or not. It is quite convenient that major chemtrail characters like themselves and Halva have been portraying us as raving lunatics screaming that the sky is falling.
On the surface, Will Thomas is the leading historical voice on chemtrails. However, he also links to Halva {Wayne Hall} and bases his chemtrail book on the words of a "Louis Aubuchont." He also is intertwined with the Terry Stewart hoax. He has reported on Steadham's trail report. I am glad BlueSkyHope is here to back up my general theory on the major chemtrail forums and websites. I don't even think I did anything too special, in that it is pretty obvious what has been going on to anyone who has looked into these things. I think I have simply been the one to make sure this insider convolution got weeded out and exposed.
{I've also noticed that images are broken on this thread. When I get the chance I will fix those.}
Here is the
Streamers ad BlueSkyHope {great name!} was talking about.
I ended up at Chemtrail Central at first just like everyone else. But I didn't like the look of it and didn't start reading it closely until I joined up in 2006.
Will Thomas was the one who I put my faith in. Thus, I did have a certain bias to believing in Therit{Steadham}, Halva, and Lou. Thomas seemed to be providing a rational explanation for the chemtrails. I remember the Fitrakis articles. One ended up reading about "Deep Sky" and "Deep Shield." One was led to Steadham's trail report. Of course, one also ended up reading Wayne Hall's {Halva} chemtrail articles. One ended up at the Rense chemtrail pages. One of those stood out to me- the one where chemtrails were said to be about depopulating America and creating a wilderness paradise for the surviving elite.
The Chemtrail Central Changes took place about a half year before I signed up. Steadham decided to let the debunkers back in. People like Swampgas, Increase1776, Big Joe, Aubuchont, Halva, et al relocated the operations to the Gastronamus Cafe.
I guess I am starting to repeat my story again and will try to rein this in.
I've actually known about Wilhelm Reich since the late 80's from reading
The Mass Psychology of Fascism. I equated orgone with being Reich's lingo for Freud's eros versus the death principle. I was taken aback by all the things Reich wrote about orgone, but I figured he was just being creative and a bit of a free spirit with the words. My professor didn't have much comment on it. He said people kind of shake their heads on that or put it to the side and concentrate on Reich's great insights into the roots of fascism.
I think if Reich were alive today, he would be giving a tongue lashing to Don Croft and Educate-Yourself type people. It's ridiculous, imho, to even go there. Even if chembusters could work, which I highly doubt, it would be like the one citizen confronting the Chinese tank in Tiannemen{sp?} Square.
But this goes beyond the chembusters. A lot of this kind of trash was being posted at
Rigorous Intuition by Don Croft's brother-in-law called The Dragon. He would also post about the holy mud grenades and other fruit loopy stuff. Now I would be very surprised if people like them aren't intel disinfo. Maybe there are some whackjobs in real life who get deluded or perhaps they are sophisticated grifters taking advantage of chemtrails. But to get back to the point BlueSky was alluding to in the emails, it is very convenient how insane some of these people appear.
I was FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe at CTC. That is a line from a
Rage Against the Machine song. I never set out to be a "debunker." I never even thought about that word too much. But once I got to Gastro, the debate script was right in my face. Then I looked into the epic battles between Jay Reynolds, Ed Snell/Yaak, Maverick et al versus Swampgas, Lou, Halva, Deborah/Foot Soldier etc.. At some point it hit me. The whole thing is like watching wrestling on tv. I'm talking fake wrestling.
I now believe that I did throw a monkey wrench into the script. I am thinking the plan was to slow down the volume of chemtrail postings, but that I have forced them to keep at it more than they would like to. The views at Gastro were increasing. Then around December {2006}- January {2007}, Chem11 was the first to freak out and change character by attacking myself and Swampgas for our uv-b ray notions. Then Arcadia, Halva, and Increase1776 ganged up on me at Gastro. I was starting to question Arcadia's posts in private. Arcadia however decided to attack me in public. That's the same thing that happened between myself and may41970.
I believe people should vent in private. Otherwise, debate should be fair and respectful. Sometimes things happen in the heat of battle, I'll admit that.
As for the subliminals, it is tough to prove whether they are deliberate. Yet, we know that the media has been infiltrated at times. We now know about Markos Zuniga and
The DailyKos. Maybe with advertising companies evolving into conglomerates, it wouldn't be too difficult to make chemtrail subliminals. The ptb's certainly want us to think chemtrails are contrails and a result of increased air traffic.