socrates
Joined: 11 May 2007
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 Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: So They Have a Nice FACE It Seems |
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Hi BlueSky,
Thanks for the feedback and great points.
Groups can be promoting wonderful things, but beneath the surface, hidden agendas may lurk.
These websites and forums you are new to, they are part of the netroots movement. They have found a niche, the Raw Story and BradBlog for examples. There is the DailyKos. They are the top dog. These others are on a lower tier yet are still influential.
I was shocked to find those Bev Harris quotes. I do not believe she would write anything like this without good reason.
John Gideon blogs at BradBlog. Bev wrote that this group conducts swiftboating campaigns against people like herself. 
It saddens me that Brad Friedman could be some kind of spook.
I just left a post but it is awaiting moderation. Bev Harris showed up. I thought it was a good time to ask her about the Quixote story.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6283
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socrates
Joined: 11 May 2007
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Is the fix in for McCain? This appears to be a likely scenario. Using pure logic, how should McCain even have a chance to win? Are we that racist a country? I don't think so.
There are these gatekeeper, tinfoil places like BradBlog. If Brad was for real, Agent99 would not be the moderator. If he was sincere, he'd fess up about Brett Kimberlin's awkward past. He wouldn't have deleted the above post. He would have responded to the allegations which can be proven. Bev Harris did write about smear campaigns. She has on occassion taken Brad to task for his unprofessional tabloid.
It all adds up to me. Larisa of RawStory is a liar who put the muzzle on his evil past. I'd be more likely to give this Kimberlin/Curtis some respect, if there wasn't this intensive misrepresentation of Kimberlin as an ex-political prisoner.
The agenda is to keep election integrity in the realm of tinfoil. Brad leads the way. Do not underestimate the influence that the comments sections have at these forums. They are almost as important as the original blogposts.
The bottom line is Clint Curtis is no Democrat. I don't doubt claims made that the other Democratic nominee is shady. I definitely realise that Feeney is very bad. Could it be possible that all three of them suck? Larisa of RawStory outright lied like a spook to paint an untrue, favourable portrait of Kimberlin.
He didn't mind some mention of Brett being a bomber. Like Hertzberg being close to Fintan Dunne, this is what it is. But I think this part about Larisa, RawStory, and Kimberlin was too much for the controlled zeitgeist to handle.
I wrote a few emails to Bev Harris.
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Dear Bev Harris and BBV.Org,
I replied to your post on the "November Spectre Rising" thread at the BradBlog. I asked about your public comments about The Quixote Group and Foundation. It has been put into the moderating system. Not only that, I have been asking about the connections between Brett Kimberlin, Raw Story, and BradBlog. I also don't understand how a convicted bomber got all this money to buy "whistleblower" stories.
I also am quite aware of the smear job that has taken place as regards to yourself. The same thing happened to me, although in some parallel universe small pond. Nonetheless, I stand by my findings. There is a chance that my humble forum has become very important in promoting great truths.
I want to know why Larisa of Raw Story said that Brett Kimberlin was exonerated for his bombing convictions. I want to know why Brad has covered up this story. Has Kimberlin been funding Raw Story too, as regards to a comment written by the LA Steele Show?
Larisa really ripped into you a month ago at the BradBlog. I know you're very busy, but I have simply connected a lot of dots. Did you know that BradBlog can be tied to right woos left Michael Rivero?
I am hopeful you may have some public comments about your posts on the Quixote Group, especially about the swiftboat campaigns you alleged they were involved in. John Gideon is in the secretive Quixote Group? Yikes. Then Brad is connected to smear jobs on yourself. I know he is tight with Ben Burch. Ben smeared you bad. He was also buddies with Andy Stephenson. Those two talked a lot of tinfoil trash. I have studied the archives. There is a stench of astroturfing. Let's call this tinfoil by association 101.
By the way, my humble path also led me to being very suspicious of groups like the Verified Voting Foundation. They too can be tied to the Velvet Revolution. It hurts me not to trust Brad or Larisa, but that is where I'm at.
Any public comments on any of this would be appreciated, as I have been shut out of both the Democratic Underground and BradBlog.
Thanks for your time and consideration,
socrates
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She sent me back a gracious note.
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Hi, Socrates,
I am always fascinated by what develops in the area of propagadizing the
internet. I had to curb my interest in that (except for reading information
like you provided) because I find that I get a lot more done when I'm working
the election protection work.
Thanks for writing,
Bev
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This is what I sent back.
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Hi Bev,
Thanks for the feedback. This is similar to what you wrote to me way back when I first informed you about Steven Hertzberg's strange, internet history. It is beyond bizarre that he was prolific at a website that called you out for, ahem, being a 9/11 CIA rat.
I never would have started to doubt Brad, if he didn't keep pushing the Clint Curtis story. Then I found out according to an L.A. Steele show, that the convicted bomber Brett Kimberlin has been supporting RawStory and BradBlog. I then saw Larisa attacking you at BradBlog. I also saw you making good points there with mostly crickets chirping as the responses.
I won't post anything other than your explanation that the disinfo aspect is intriguing, but that your main goals are to help prevent election fraud. Thank you for all your efforts.
I think I have figured everything out, and this is why Brad has started to delete my posts. Maybe I could have been more diplomatic, but it is beyond ridiculous that all of them are covering up the Brett Kimberlin history.
The netroots, imho, are rigged. But the truth is really out there. There are pockets of awareness. People will find out about the awkward connections between the big players.
One last nugget for ya. You probably are aware of Tinoire from the Progressive Independent. She had a picture of herself taken with the neocon Wolfowitz. That would be like if you posed with someone from Diebold. It wouldn't add up. She is connected to uber conspiracy hack Michael Rivero. She is also connected to Velvet Revolution. She is tied to another tinfoil hack named Jeff Wells, who also grew out of the netroots.
My theory is that Kimberlin was hired by some big group, whether the Quixote Foundation or some black-op FBI program. He has weapons, explosives, and drug smuggling in his resume. He lost a big lawsuit to the wife of the man he pretty much murdered. I don't see where he gets all this money to buy "whistleblower" stories.
Finding out about all this has caused some distress. I believed in Brad. I thought he was for real. I now think he's a failed actor who got hired to promote hidden agendas.
I don't expect more feedback from you. I realise to be too open with me could open up a can of worms.
But it all adds up to me. My late research into all this led me to suspect the Verified Voting Foundation of being some fake front for reform. I now understand why Brad gives them a free pass. They are on the same team.
I wish you peace, love, and happiness.
******* from Massachusetts
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Maybe that was a bit of a goofy sign-off. I do want to believe in people.
Speaking of disinfo trolls, a "Perry Logan" just got outed at The Democratic Underground.
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That's pretty sad. He is part of the Obama hate campaign, that party unity my ass {PUMA} crap. The CIA guy Larry Johnson was all involved with that mess. To pin Hilary versus Obama is just another ruse to justify election fraud, imho. He runs a place called No Quarters. He's posted at BradBlog. This is propaganda, plain and simple. Obama winning is a no-brainer. If McCain wins, expect four more years of intensified BradBlog bullshit. If Obama wins, I predict Brad may tone it down a lot.
There is always an end point to these games. There is always another fork in the road. That's my prediction. If Obama wins, Brad will try to become more respectable. He could very well be a long term project, like a DailyKOS, no? But if McCain is cheated in, I see places like RawStory and BradBlog going big time tabloid. If Obama wins, I see such places trying to consolidate more positive images of themselves.
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