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Re: This Doesn't Add Up

Unread postby socrates » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:56 pm

SluggoJD does not add up. One cannot go from trashing Obama to acting as if that never happened. SluggoJD yet again got in my face. If he had been smart, he would have left me alone. A rudimentary search has resulted in finding disturbing contradictions.

He has been posting at two of the biggest Obama basher websites. He was an Obama basher at the MyDD website. For him to now try to act as if he is a true Democrat now supporting the candidate reeks of a hidden agenda.

No Quarters with "ex-spook" Larry Johnson can be easily argued as being a Karl Rove type production. SluggoJD was posting there.

Obama Stands Accused of Conduct Unbecoming a Presidential Candidate

{if any cache links don't ever work, one can still try the original address}

The argument of this thread was that Obama had been flipping the bird. He can be seen scratching his face with the middle finger. So Dean wasn't just involved with that thing now missing, "Bingo! Malicious YouTube Hoaksters Exposed." There is no doubt after just a few hours of engine searching that SluggoJD has been part and parcel of the smear attacks on Obama. Et tu, Brute? Is this a Karl Rove type operative? It sure seems so.


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Here's a side tangent. At the Democratic Warrior website a few weeks back, I noticed a thread started asking about Larry Johnson. This thread was originally in the neocon exposure forum. But then Big Jerr or maybe Ben Burch had it moved to a whole other section. It's difficult not to assume that DW is a gatekeeper for the fake progressives. I noticed this Johnson being a dork last year. I even made a BradBlog post asking about his sorry bullshite. I can't seem to find one domain that doesn't have fake gatekeeper trollbusters. DW moved the thread because they didn't want the reader to connect the dots about people like Johnson, Cannonfire, and SluggoJD.


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From that crazy hoax website linked to above, the one attacking Obama as being a foreigner and tons of other lies.

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SluggoJD wants us to forget how he has been fully involved with spreading crap about Obama. But it doesn't work that way.


I've got a lot on my table. I am trying to crank out posts, while also taking care of my life away from the internet. I want to add something, and perhaps we can return to it at a later date.

It looks like SluggoJD came up with something good at Brent Wilkes a few years back. That name is sticking in my head for some reason. Remember the stuff found out about Hertzberg's connections to Knowledge Management? Well, Wilkes is tied into that too. I'm not sure if I linked the two together. The point I want to make is the same one I wondered about with the Rob Pelletier expose and the idea of controlled opposition. I was wondering if perhaps Sluggo ended up with that story because it was giftwrapped for him. Look at how it is now astroturfed that "Fintan Dunne" exposed Hertzberg. Uhm no. That was done by DrewTerry, ObeyLittle, then myself. To say otherwise would be to lie. Fintan and Navari were tight. No doubt about it. Fintan protected Navari/Hertzberg by deleting his account. Others, like me, have their posts easily found. So how could Fintan be said to expose his buddy Steve, when in fact he has been protecting him?


Washington Babylon this is your final day, this is your final call

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Deeper into the Wilkes/MZM scandals (Updated)

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Is this guy a great trollbuster? Are he and his buddy Brad really true patriots? I don't think so. Check out that Cannonfire link. Sluggo sure was successful in tracking down info about the DoD. Could it be because he works for them?



From http://www.ufppc.org/
United For Peace For Pierce County

BACKGROUND: Newsweek profiles Dusty Foggo pal at center of Pentagon corruption probe
Written by Donna Quexada
Monday, 29 May 2006

{excerpt}

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Maybe it makes sense that our most recent troll, who took hours to strategically bump threads, comes from the Attributor Corporation, a company specializing in data mining. Knowledge Management? Controlled Opposition? Connect the dots?


One other troll we are working on figuring out comes from Studio City. Attacks are coming at us from Southern California. Recently we have had disgusting porn and assorted spam domains adding this url into theirs. Also, we have gone from being treated well by Yahoo to being dumped on. One of the founders of Attributor, Jim Brock, was a bigwig at Yahoo.


I'm not saying the next stuff is proof of anything, but it makes me wonder. The problem with this is that the Seixon dude has taken down the story, like with how Reverend Mykeru has scrubbed his dirt on Ben Burch. The following is the proverbial food for thought.


http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/24/the-greatest-sock-puppet-story-ever-told/


From the comments:

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But let's get back to why I believe SluggoJD is an agent provocateur, someone playing both sides of the fence. I will now apply the salt to the wound already exposed from these recent posts of mine on this thread.



Wow, I just went to the googler to quickly find the link to my next screenshot, to make sure I can provide the right thread. While looking down while typing in my search words in order to utilize the cache, the google page kept having some kind of activity going on. I believe the ptb's are all over my ***. If this is a ******* nothing website, why all the attention? What the hell does this mean?

clients1.google.com


From yahoo cache:

Let Me Explain to Obamazoids Why We Don’t Care To Hear From You


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The real mess is SluggoJD's posting patterns.


For the next one I'll copy and paste the posts before SluggoJD the Obama basher showed up.


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/2/681/69653

End our 50-year national nightmare: Vote Obama!


Re: End our 50-year national nightmare: Vote Obama (none / 0)


I don`t see Auchi`s name in there or slumlord Rezko for that matter.
Wisdom Is The Reward For Listening Over A Lifetime
by gunner on Fri May 02, 2008 at 07:15:42 AM EST

go to dkos (none / 0)

obama is the bad candidate, the divider and cult builder.
his association with rezko, wright and ayers disqualified him a long time ago.
his health plan is unacceptable. and list go on.
so answer for your call is NO!
Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Fri May 02, 2008 at 08:26:52 AM EST

Re: go to dkos (none / 0)

Cult builder....?

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Fri May 02, 2008 at 08:47:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: go to dkos (none / 0)

What Cult has Barack Obama built?? Did I miss a memo or something????

John McCain: Everyones nowhere man
by johnny sexton on Fri May 02, 2008 at 09:54:28 AM EST



Then came in the Slug. Who do you think he was calling out for being trolls? SluggoJD can act like he is a Democrat in full support of Obama, but unless people get amnesia, we all know exactly what kind of fifth column activity he has been up to. The slug shouldn't have gotten in my face. I believe I make his blood boil because I am a true peacenik, not cumbaya, necessarily, but I hate all war! Is Sluggo part of the DoD or some other black op branch of internet ********? Hey Slug, if you read this or get the info from Attributor Corp., don't knock yourself out writing one of your psy-op letters. I won't even read it. Once I realise it is you, it will get deleted. That's what I do with trolls. I gnore them. When I go after trolls, I do it on my terms, not yours.

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Sluggo made a strategic error getting in my face. I had a few tidbits here and there on him, but not the amount I've come up with the last days. WHEN ARE THESE TOOLS GOING TO LEARN TO BACK OFF OF ME?


There's plenty more I could post about this time. But I think what has been presented will be sufficient. I now believe that this guy is an anonymous username after all. I do not believe he is who he has claimed to be. I notice a lot of long time usernames crashing and burning, jumping the shark, etc.. Add one more chump change traitor to the list.



On edit: Could most of these board wars be rigged?

Code: Select all
http://minx.cc/?post=187864


"Seixon" Post Outing Seixon's Personal Information Traces To Irvine, California

The IP of the person claiming to be "Seixon," is 69.108.82.125. I don't think I have to worry about "outing" the IP since it's from a sock-puppet attempting to harm Seixon in a nasty way, or, who knows, it's from someone else trying to make it appear as if Seixon is under attack....

Better geeks than I have teased more information out of the IP address. Originally I just found it was from "SBC Internet Services," but rw and Sue Donhim tip me that the "Seixon" email traces to Irvine. California: ...


[email protected]????

Was this some script? We've seen it time and time again. Sluggo attacks AnonymousArmy. AA attacks BradBlog. Mace attacks Bev. Sluggo attacks Mace. FreeRepublic attacks Ben Burch and Democratic Underground. Burch is at DW which attacks "neocon infiltrators." Many DU posts talk about freeper trolls. Mykeru attacks Burch. Burch goes after Mykeru. FrankSolich gets nailed by Sluggo. On and on and on.

Is a lot of the internet simply scripted? How come so much of these flame wars have been deleted? I read there was some epic battle between Burch and AA over at the Mike Malloy forum. That is now gone too. Are these people creating rabbit holes, leaving some crumbs, but deleting the bulk of the events? The Trial of Kelvin Mace? Gone. Are Kelvin Mace and others still going after Bev Harris. Not as far as I can see. But we did get the word from Sluggo that some kind of truce had been established. Yeah, right. :roll:
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Re: BradBlog Tied To The Verified Voting Foundation

Unread postby socrates » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:30 pm

http://novbm.wordpress.com/the-long-links-page/


Who’s Who in the Voting Reform Movement

I just found this site again… Vote Trust USA. Co-founded by Andy Stephenson, there’s several good people working on this organization. They also have a great state-by-state list of voting integrity groups, so if you like these links pages, then check their’s out.....


Lately, Brad Friedman, has been doing great writing and heavy lifting over at the Brad Blog......


Verified Voting, and David Dill from Stanford University
David Dill is a professor at Standford University, and he runs Verified Voting.....


Bev Harris, is the Grandmother turned activist at the helm of Blackbox Voting. ORG is also the star of the show in HBO’s movie, “Hacking Democracy”. Her book “Blackbox Voting” is an essential read for anyone looking to understand the modern day voting machine debacle. It’s still on the website, for free, to anyone wanting to read the long list of problems she and others have uncovered over the years......



Andy Stephenson, worked as a researcher with Bev Harris on the first book on E-Voting and Diebold. He subsequently ran for Secretary of State as a Democrat in the State of Washington, bringing much needed focus on this political position around the country......



Velvet Revolution. Velvet Revolution is a grassroots organizing force. Wanna get hands on… check them out. Velvet Revolution is a great resource. Highest recommendation......


The Democratic Underground, was one of the first blog style websites to really bring together voting activists on the e-Voting topic. The website is still a great resource for anyone looking to understand the issues into the minute details......



We now know that Gideon is tied to VoteTrustUSA. Now we see how Andy Stephenson was a founder. We now know about Brett Kimberlin. Gideon is Brad's #1 blogger.

We can also link Mark Lindeman to the VVF.

That's a partial list that was written by Gentry Lange. He is from Washington State.


http://verifiedvoting.org/

VerifiedVoting.org engages in lobbying activities permitted by IRC Section 501(c)(4). Please visit the Verified Voting Foundation for info about 501(c)(3) educational activities. You can also visit Vote Trust USA, a project of the Verified Voting Foundation.
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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:57 pm

It's ironic. I was actually in contact with sluggoJD right when he was busy with his fake exposing of the youtube hoax video. I was starting to put together the big pieces of the Hertzberg, Fintan, Anonymous Army, and Brad Friedman puzzle. While he was advising me to make trollbustingmore of a hobby, he was busy doing his thing at MyDD, Cannonfire, and NoQuarters. It is beyond pitiful, if he expects anyone to buy into his new trollbusting on behalf of Obama. He is trying to do mop up duty on his tattered reputation.

SluggoJD's article is gone. The only place I see anything on this is from the few links I already put up here.

From the Democratic Underground thread:

Infamous YouTube - BingoFrogger - Identities revealed

by SluggoJD, Sun May 04, 2008 at 12:33:45 AM EST

Jamal Boone, of Venice, CA - a lot of people might want to contact you.

UPDATE - Jamal Boone, an Obama supporter, has one pro-Clinton video listed as a favorite - The War Room, Part 9. Guess what happens starting at 4:39 in part 9? Yup, Mickey Kantor comes in....and you can guess the rest, but I'll spell it out anyways - part 9 was used to create BingoFrogger's original hoax video. END UPDATE.

I believe I've done it - discovered the persons responsible for the very first "people from Indiana are ****" hoax video, posted online by BingoFrogger on Thursday, 5/1/08 around 3 PM. This video spawned later reposts all over the internets by a notorious hitman known as Politikewl - who is friends with JedReport at You Tube, and others, and then mutated into an even uglier hoax video, when someone decided to try to make others believe that Mickey Kantor used the term "white ni---rs" to describe people in Indiana.

This will be my last diary on this subject, because I am convinced I have solved it completely. I will name the person who did this, in my opinion, based on the research. I will take everyone through the evidence step by step. I'm sorry to say these people are, at the very least, Obama supporters, and not right wing trolls trying to cause trouble.

So here we go, step by step...






This part I find striking:

I'm sorry to say these people are, at the very least, Obama supporters, and not right wing trolls trying to cause trouble.



From further down:

[quote="McCamy Taylor"] Eeks! However, people posing as Obama suporters could still be CREEPY.... Because attacks against one Democrat that appear to come from another Democrat was the number one strategy of Nixon's dirty tricksters in 1972 and internet stuff is ideal for that.


I believe that's why SluggoJD, Larry Johnson, and DailyKos took down that SluggoJD article. It's the same reason why someone had a post on Larry Johnson moved out of the neocons exposed forum at the Democratic Warrior. Rightwingers posing as progressives is fairly easy to call at this point in history. "John Dean" went out of his way to argue that it was Obama supporters behind the attack hoax tape. SluggoJD, Cannonfire, and Johnson have zero credibility. I just wrote a letter to Bev Harris warning her of this, how sluggoJD does not appear to be as he seems. It's getting tougher for me to believe Bev Harris is on the up and up. There's a big stench coming out of the electoral integrity movement, as in all of them, the debunkers, the believers, and all these people like Hertzberg, AnonymousArrmy, SluggoJD, Kelvin Mace, Brad Friedman, Andy Stephenson, Scamdy.com and Free Republic.... Ugh, this whole thing reeks of total spookage.

How is the internet not rigged? If anything, the DU is looking good in this, as they didn't scrub the thread.

So when SluggoJD out of nowhere comes out attacking freepers all over Obama's back with ******* lies, let it be known for the record that SluggoJD was doing the same exact thing mere months beforehand. Check out this last excerpt for his gall. I believe this is a freeper spook, just like McCamy Taylor alluded. How does one go from kissing spooky Larry Johnson's butt one moment to dissing him the next? This is a freeper troll. He has exposed himself. If Bev Harris doesn't disassociate herself with "John Dean from Santa Ana California," I will no longer trust her either.

[quote="SluggoJD"]...I can’t help but wonder if Larry Johnson is friends with this guy.

Regardless, you were clearly involved in sliming Obama with lies, many months ago. That effort failed. And here you are again now, trying to slime him with new lies about his wife.

I couldn’t care less about the right wing thugs here, who play multiple roles in an attempt to create a big snowball from a little lying snowball. They will do what they do, regardless of the truth, because it is their nature.

But for everyone, it’s important for them to see how you’ve done this before.

John Dean
SluggoJD



His internet address tells me he is coming from New York, New York, not Santa Ana, CA.. It was the same one revealed by that strange freeper website.



________________________________________________
{related story}
Brad Friedman linked directly to Andy Stephenson, Ben Burch crowd:

VoteTrustUSA Co-Founded by Stephenson, Gideon Connections, No Vote by Mail Connection to Stephenson's Campaign Manager, Gentry Lange, and a Possible Tie-In to Burch of Illinois
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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:40 pm

Andy Stephenson worked with the rightwing disinfo agent, Tom Flocco. You can plug in Mary Schneider and Andy Stephenson into search engines and see that they were involved with a "story" done on Gannon and Gosch. Stephenson was involved with the disinfo crowd, no doubt. He admitted to ties with Mike Vreeland. He was close with troll usernames like Ben Burch and Seventhson. This is the one forum that has put it all together.

Stephenson co-founded VoteTrustUSA. John Gideon, Brad friedman's #1 blogger, also worked for VoteTrustUSA, part of the Verified Voting Foundation. Bev Harris once wrote of how Gideon was involved in something called the Quixote Foundation. SluggoJD slimed Obama, and then a month or two later he is trollbusting freepers attacking Obama.

There was a regular blogger during BradBlog's early days. Apparently he had the scoop on Jeff Gannon. His name is Ron Brynaert. Guess where he works now? At the Raw Story with Larisa Alexandrovna he is the executive editor. It now appears that convicted bomber Brett Kimberlin bankrolled both Raw Story, BradBlog, and AfterDowningStreet. We have Burch stalking a *** therapist and messing around with Wikipedia.

Give me a break.

How is the internet not rigged?

I found one page from the Malloy forum from the wayback machine concerning Andy, Ben Burch, AnonymousArmy, and scamdy.com. One page out of 81.

HOW IS THE INTERNET NOT RIGGED??????

Allegations of Fraud Hound Andy Stephenson Fundraiser

{related info is in the public forum and elsewhere in the astroturfing section on the rigged internet and its major players and scenarios. true progressives are not wanted..}
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Re: They're All Rigged! DU Busted!

Unread postby socrates » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:51 am

Ok, I tried, from all the websites I gravitated to, they are all tainted. "Fintan" is the most obvious wingnut. Then comes Markos Zuniga of DailyKos, uhm, he has admitted to it. Then comes Brad with his kooky commentators and his kookier co-founder of Velvet Revolution, Brett Kimberlin. Raw Story comes next, but it is tied with Bev Harris. Larisa outright lying about Kimberlin coupled with some claim by the LA Steele Show that Kimberlin has been a backer of RawStory, yikes. Bev sold Clinton cigars. Now I see that she was affiliated to Tom Flocco and SluggoJD. I can now understand that the voter suppression issue has been covered up by the electronic machine side of the fraud. Finally is the Democratic Underground. Unless one posts there, it is very difficult to understand how corrupt it is. A bunch of posts back I was able to put up screenshots of posts I made as USofFascism that were strategically deleted. The DU is very sneaky about which posts they delete, and which ones they allow to remain. They are astroturfing cheaters. They deleted my most stinging posts. They did not want me putting Mark {OnTheOtherHand} Lindeman in his place. Those have been the ones that have been deleted the most. I also exposed PatrickSMcNally, the holocaust denier who lasted one post here before I googled him and saw what a scumbag he is. I got tossed from DU because I was making too much sense. And there is no where else to go. I don't trust Prosemite Undercover. I don't trust Democratic Warrior. HuffingtonPost isn't the kind of place for this. The Randi Rhodes Message Board is part of the scam. Same as Progressive Independent. I honestly don't know where to go with these types of things.

The Democratic Underground is ultimately a freeper website. They are right of center politically. My sense is that Lithos is the chief mole along with Magistrate. The top three guys are just regular corporate sheep raking in their bucks as phoney yuppies. According to the Prosemite Undercover, Lithos is Worthy LaFollette from Austin, Texas. I couldn't find anything on him. There was a Worthy LaFollette who graduated Austin HS around 1981. I also saw a search result listing him in the field of Information Techology and Services. That page has been deleted and is blocked in the wayback machine. No doubt about it, there are some dark side controlling that forum. They let the nasty debunkers get away with breaking rules, while true progressives and open-minded, curious people get driven off.


Basically, DU didn't want me kicking Lindeman's *** in debate. They didn't want me to have credibility as a trollbuster with Adolph McSmelly. Yet, they also didn't mind me tearing apart Andy Stephenson, Brad Friedman, Larisa Alexandrovna, and Kimberlin. But they can't afford to have me around too much. I think its Lithos, Magistrate, and Skinner too can be an ideological scrooge squelching freedom of speech and association. If you like reading sometimes at Democratic Underground, enjoy the threads.

Also, if you scroll down, you can make the posts readable. Just move the username over to see the full posts. Or hit on the image link. A new window will open. Those were good posts. 8)



A NeoNazi Is Exposed

I showed up at the end for two posts. I could no longer stand the neonazi getting away with being on that board. Watch how the fake debunker Boloboffin shows up and takes the high horse. DU might do more scrubbing and pruning. But for now I have found three more screenshots of what they have unfairly deleted. DU doesn't want the public to know how they cheat with the moderating. They are almost as corrupt as Tinoire at Progressive Underground. They may not rearrange the posts to make the tombstoned look worse, but they don't delete without a purpose. Sometimes it is the pure content they want off the board. Other times, they want to make it seem that the tombstoned had a hissy fit and/or deserved to be tossed. Their downfall is that they have a selective bias with the moderating. It is the same as the crap going on at the Randi Rhodes Message Board, just far more subtle.

Here's a post they didn't want the readers to see.

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Here's another thread where I also exposed the nazi and a JREF cultist.

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Boloboffin is a nasty debunker type. Watch here as he defends Andy Stephenson's tinfoil. On other threads he'll pepper a suspected fake believer named seemslikeadream, here he defends nutjob freeper troll Andy Stephenson. That doesn't add up. How do you ridicule the conspiracy theorists one moment and then embrace them the next. These fakes are no match for me. Not being vain here. It's the truth.

A blast from the past: Delmart Vreeland sentenced to 336 years in prison

[quote="boloboffin"]Yes, Andy was fooled by this creep like many others were.

Andy was a great person, but he was human like us all.



Huh? This is a debunker. What a joke. What a fake. He's probably Tom Flocco for all we know.



Ok, here's a recent thread where Mark Lindeman was getting his *** whooped in debate. So the mod stepped in and deleted two of my posts. Lindeman was Sonny Liston. I was Muhammed Ali. I guess they had to cheat. :evil:

Postelection poll results CONTRADICT media claims that U.S. is a "center-right" country


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Here are some bonus threads. This one a mod named Wickerman locked it right when some answers were being figured out.

Scoop & Autorank: Michael Collins Full Report - "Election 2004: The Urban Legend"

The irony is that the guy who started the thread, althecat, could be fake too. He is from Scoop News. It could be a vent gatekeeper like RawStory from the other side of the world. They used to post a lot of Tom Flocco. They fuel the BradBloggy kind of tabloid feel to election integrity on the internet.

I made a lot of inroads. Hopefully nothing else gets deleted. Bozos was the gatekeeper for trollbusters. There are without a doubt scripts put in place at the DU. I am primarily speaking about the two forums there I became accustomed to, the 9/11 dungeon and the electoral reform forum.



Brad Friedman Under the Spotlight: Settle Down Francis!



Why All the lying for Kimberlin, lala_rawraw?


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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:38 pm

The internet is full of fakes. The fact that I appear to be the only pure lefty speaking out is because the major forums are overrun by disinfo scripts. People do not speak out on the DU, DailyKos, and other center right forums posing as progressive because they know they'll get banned. They know their best stuff will probably be deleted, that the thread will be manipulated to let the center right numbnut appear as the winner. Hogwash. I've put up a few of those deleted posts, showing how DU selectively edits like that.

They want people's money. They want folks to think they are less likely to be banned if they cough up some money. They are pestering their members for money every few months. I don't see any progressives. The beatnick/hippie vote is not welcomed. They are trying to show Democrats as being pro-gun, pro-war, pro-capitalism, etc.. These forums are corrupt to the core. Paid troll usernames are easy to spot, because of the sheer numbers of fake posts. The DU is turning out to be the worst of all. Right of center is their astroturf.

I'm backtracking on Slu&&0JD being from New York. I have two numbers from him and they are close to the Santa Ana area like he says. There are a lot of wierd connections between these players. It feels like a gatekeeping operation based on the strategy of weaving long-winded rabbit hole enigmas.

The protagonists are left versus right as defined by the script. These people are working with psy-op manuals. I don't care if this sounds kooky. I have firsthand experience of sock puppets breaking rules. They established SlugFace to sully anyone who might get good with amateur internet sleuthing. No one wants to recreate the wheel. No one goes into blogging on forums thinking fakety fakeness from the get-go. It takes repeatedly getting burned to realise there really are insidious dramas with the objective being the stifling of independent thought.


Just google away if you want to. Jason Leopold, Larisa Alexandrovna, John Slu&&0JD Dean, Anonymous Army, etc..

Ok, here are a few.

Guardian report confirms Raw Story piece on secret CIA prisons
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Guardian_report_confirms_RAW_STORY_piece_0607.html

Basically Larisa Alexandrovna {not her real name} gets Bob Woodward type info from intel sources. She was fully involved with the drama including Leopold, Bozos, Seixon, AnonymousArmy. There is too much of this kind of crap for me to conclude anything less than that the internet is rigged to a large extent.

Leopold and "Alexandrovna" wrote papers together.

Uhm, I'll wrap this post up. Around the time I was finishing up this thread tying together a lot of these people, especially the Hertzberg to AA connection, that's when Bozos dug into me to stop taking trollbusting so seriously. I'm having no doubts anymore. Check out the names. Check out their connections. The proof is all out there.


This is from the conservative side. They could be for real and were simply being psy-opped to react to fake liberals and progressives.


Leftist Reporter Forges Emails, Smears Blogger Who Dares to Question 'Truth'
http://newsbusters.org/node/6563



I think the character topsecretk9 might have been a fake.

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No offenses AJ. but Larisa and her little cyber sleuth and her buddy Larry Johnson had me pegged as a DOD Deiblod employee plant frown Diebold or DOD or something.

I am housewife like.


That's just an example. It seems they want to portray the leftists as paranoid, conspiracy theorists. These people stink.



I thought AA was Hertzberg. They had the same first name. There was one profile I think showing AA as being from the USA. Sluggo said they weren't. He said he was probably Pelletier or something stupid. This guy, these people, you can check them out. It smells like a script.



Some comments from Raw Story.

http://www.rawstory.com/comments.php?id=32722

June 7th, 2007 at 22:47:17 From: Psychological Warfare Hunter

The real question is who told Larisa Alexandrovna about those secret prisons? Uncle Sam do you work for Larisa Alexandrovna? Or is Larisa Alexandrovna working for Uncle Sam?

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Guardian_report_confirms_RAW_STORY_piece_0607.html




June 7th, 2007 at 22:49:51 From: Raw Story A Pentagon Creature

Raw Story you should not go around bragging about the fact that you are a Pentagon creature. We already know that!



June 8th, 2007 at 01:29:56 From: Easterling

Raw Story A Pentagon Creature

Actually RawStory has consistently endeavored to upgrade the class of Troll that is provided online to a point where they are almost totally believable ... NOT! Great to see my tax $$$$$'s are doing something other than paying the people who keep tabs on me and my fellow Constitutionalists 24/7. PEACE brothers and today is the 40th anniversary of Israeli butchering of 34 American Sailors and wounding of nearly 200. All defensless and all betrayed by their own government.



Oooh, the joos did it bullshite. The internet is rigged. Now I'm trying to figure out that USS Liberty story. Was it a mistake or muder? The top results were going to wingnut websites. Here was one I found from The Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/aug/08/israel

A rebuttal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2 ... anletters3


The entire empirical basis of James Bamford's claim has been demolished and his unscholarly treatment of source material exposed, by Michael Owen in the New Republic.

The reason for the attack - as recently declassified documents in both the US and Israel confirm - was that Israeli forces misidentified the Liberty as an enemy vessel. On realising their mistake they ceased firing, extended help and called rescue helicopters. Israel properly apologised for the attack and compensated the families of the dead and injured.

Bamford's claim of a cover-up by the Johnson administration in order not to lose the support of "pro-Israel voters" is unsupported by any evidence.

Oliver Kamm,
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Re: Proving How Major Forums Cheat

Unread postby socrates » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:31 pm

Proof that Democratic Underground Cheats

The only way to bust them is to take screenshots.

They are running an elaborate scam at the Democratic Underground. They are astroturfing that the Democratic Party is center right while allowing the electoral integrity and 9/11 dungeon forums to astroturf disinfo daily.
Larisa Alexandrovna {not even her real name} has gone ballistic. Now I am Anonymous Army of Diebold! They are selectively deleting my posts. I do not have fake conversations with sock puppets, unlike Larisa's close associate Jason Leopold.

The people behind the script have a mole or fifteen making decisions for the moderating. I am as far left as they come without being an *** about it. I believe war should be outlawed, and that all the alphabets need to be reassigned to everyday civilian positions. Individual creeps come and go. It is the totality of institutions that is at the root of fascism.

The Democratic Underground, DailyKos, the Randi Rhodes Message Board, and many more are nothing different from any other status quo'ers.

Leopold and Larisa have all these intel contacts? No way. Check out the posts that she had deleted. The Democratic Underground is trying to cover up the basic truths that I have posted. They are the real life freeper spooks. Real progressive, lefty, peacenik types are not wanted. Internet cointelpro anyone?


Jason Leopold has used many a sock puppet according to a number of blogs. That makes Larisa a hypocrite. Leopold's also widely known for his bullshite articles alleging Bush/Cheney indictments. Larisa, Brad, Leopold, and many others are merely fabricated strawmen, imho. Check it out for yourself. True progressives are not wanted to be the debunkers. They want Free Republic and AnonymousArmy with the Scamdy.com to be the controlled opposition. Insidious people are toying with the political processes to be found on the internet. Understand?

I googled ObamaDaMan, and there are a bunch of them. I am only that name at DU. I am none of the others. I am peacenik37. I thought they had banned that username. I had it a long time ago and was getting an error page. But I was able to get in a few posts, not as in a sock puppet conversation, but to get some real answers for once.

Larisa had her chance to apologise for her outrageous lies about Brett Kimberlin. She didn't. She called me out for being a freeper. Yeah right, like that makes sense. Anyway, here are the screenshots that can only be seen here.



About the NH votes ....(Important)

This is a new one for me. They deleted EVERYTHING! I thus only have my posts. This is the basic information that the DU doesn't want folks to see. To a large extent, I have done what Fintan Dunne claimed to do but never delivered. It can even be assumed at this point that Dunne is part of an organised trolling operation.

I wanted answers from Larisa!

The whole section was deleted, and Larisa and someone else's rantings, probably Leopold{?} can be found on a few other threads. On with the show.


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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.


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She mentioned Andy Stephenson in the opening post.

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I apologised for going off topic. I actually agreed with the thread. It was simply selected to bump it from getting archived and to ask Larisa some pointed questions.

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Then I responded to Mark {OnTheOtherHand} Lindeman barking about me calling Stephenson a terrorist, not what I meant.

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Someone then tried to put the focus on Kimberlin selling pot to Dan Quayle.

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Then I showed Stephenson admitting to being tied to Mike Vreeland. I was basically asking Larisa to explain why she lied about Kimberlin on the old TroubleInWinter thread. She outright lied. My posts were so full of the big picture, they could not be allowed to remain! DU cheats!


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Then Leopold or whoever told me I had nothing. But combined with the other two threads I was on, I was making complete sense. In this last one, I meant that all the posts would have been deleted if I was a trouble making disruptor troll with bad sources. I am a decent blogger. I was making excellent, insightful posts that the dark side couldn't allow to remain published. They want the freepers calling them out as DUmmies. They don't want the real progressive underground to gain traction at the major political forums. I was still giving DU the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't cheat the threads more than a bit. I thought they would at least let the truth stay, even if I wasn't allowed to. How is the internet not rigged?


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More to come when I get the time, maybe tonight. 8)

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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:19 am

Postelection poll results CONTRADICT media claims that U.S. is a "center-right" country


#38 and #40 can be found above.


Check out Larisa with the ad hominems.

[quote="spooky rawstory"]66. Andy is dead...

and he was never a Republican... so are you weeding him out too?




I see where one post I made it seem I wasn't ObamaDaMan. Apologies. But I wanted to get answers to the question. This wasn't about the messenger. I've just been the only one with the balls to confront these fakes.

Hey, Wade Boggs spoke in the third person. Oops.


[quote="Larisa"]61. i guess

this troll and ObamaDaman are the same person... you can tell by their inability to make any sense and do it in exactly the same way. follow both around too, notice a pattern: attack election integrity people, post smears in election forums... seems like someone is very interested and for a very specific reason... both "people" or both personalities of the same twisted person need to be banned and the IP for good.



60. actually, you and the troll are the same person

hon



They deleted my response.

#57

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#64 was removed also. It was a response to me. It was probably Larisa calling me a moron shill for Diebold.



One more.

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[quote="LarisaTheHackSpookWannabe"]]37. The guy is likely

The same guy who set up scamdy.com... don't your recognize the badly phrased structures being passed off as sentences? Seems like someone is a bit jumpy now that Bush is leaving office.




36. Nothing personal

Hon, you have done nothing but blog about Brad since you got on this board. Seems to me like you are making it very personal. The question is why? Seems like you owe DU members are reason for these attacks and not just from the voices in your head. But sourced evidence.



#38. No, we just think you are garbage...

Does that work better for ya hon? Now go back to your shrink and let them know that the meds are not working. You can't even lie well hon, which means you are not only crazy (and/or a troll), but that your insanity is not even interesting. See Brad is a respected member of the DU community. Andy is a hero. You think you can just show up and pretend to be an interested bystander trying to set the record straight? We have seen this before and it usually ends with banishment from civilization.


The last sentence sounded like a death threat. Anyone can google these people and see they are full of disinfo crap and acting as gatekeeper strawmen.


One nobody has exposed all these ******* spooks.

They probably banned MNReformer too. That would be bull. He didn't do anything wrong. They can check the ip's and see he isn't from Massachusetts. My fundamental questions having nothing to do with me personally continue to get covered up. No one says a word for fear of banishment. Plus, where is one to go? Every forum appears to be rigged.

Ben Burch is now an administrator at the Randi Rhodes Message Board. He is also tight with the Democratic Warrior. There is a fake section there on exposing necon infiltration. What a bunch of dumb psy-ops for them to have the whole thing unravel. The truths figured out about the internet corruption will emerge.The DW doesn't even provide links for guests. WTF? One has to be a member to see links. That's a joke.
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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:59 pm

That's quite a stench coming out of Larisa Alexandrovna, Jason Leopold, and many others. I believe they get paid to make the internet and progressives look bad. They establish elaborate scripts in which anyone who questions them or their long list of associates is swiftboated as being a freeper troll. This is how the left has gotten pushed off the major internet forums. When fakes like this have moderators and whole forums in their back pockets, anyone with decent questions gets this treatment. Posts get scrubbed.

It doesn't matter who I am. The questions and links provided have proven beyond any doubts that Larisa of RawStory is a fraud. Plus, anyone see her writing skills on some of those DU threads? What awful spelling for an alleged journalist. I know I have posted some things where I shouldn't have forgotten to do an edit. But the difference is I don't get paid, and I don't go into denial mode if someone can show me where I am wrong. The only thing that has stopped me from reaching the upper echelon of these forums has been my decision to cover chemtrails. I was clearly on a path to move up the blog chain.Yet, I don't regret a thing. I have proven both the chemtrails and the internet disinformation.


My Unwitting Role in the Rove 'Scoop'
Joe Lauria

Leopold basically stole Lauria's identity. Leopold has been too perfect a loser strawmen for the rightwing. I believe all these people are fake progressives. I believe all of these asshats are spooks whose jobs are to stymie democratic processes on the internet. Larisa called me a garbage scamdy.com freeper troll. Larisa is a spook. You hear that? Larisa of RawStory along with Leopold and many others get paid to fock with the internet. They are the real garbage. They are rightwing hacks, plain and simple.
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Re: "Fintan," Hertzberg, Kos, DU, Brad, Bev, and the Raw Story

Unread postby socrates » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:52 pm

Brad Friedman's crying about carpal tunnel syndrome. He's going to be cutting back on his blogging. I think it's time for him to lay low. The following made it, until BradBlog decided to delete. The post was replaced with a note saying how "clevah" I was. Spooky O'Friedman should never have taunted me to dig deep. That guy is steeped in the disinfo doodoo.



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You know my discoveries are getting too good when BradBlog and Democratic Underground need to resort to wholesale scrubbing and pruning.

He acts all smug. But the truth is I don't hide who I am. I just never expected the gatekeeper to delete the above, so I took it up a notch. This one never made it. It was a response to another poster.



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The writing was a mock up on the DU posting stupid things called freeperisms.The internet is rigged. Brad's in on it, imho.


Some more dirt on him:

From an old post, his rightwinger slant-



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World Net Daily? :lol:


Jack Blood and Cannonfire? Watch out Matt Drudge? I think Brad Friedman is a freeper troll.


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According to his resume, there is a void from 1996-1998. Plus, a lot of that looks like freelance work, so who knows how much theater work he has been up to. I see plenty of time along with a lifestyle for someone to have studied at the Fine School of Spookology.



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Stage combat? Dialects? Driver licenses??!!?!? You've got to be kidding. Yikes.


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The name is Friedman. Brad. Brad Friedman.



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This may be unscientific, but I knew a kid who claimed to have been going through a CIA interview process. He said it was something that took a lot of time, and that not just anyone gets hired by them. He had the same kind of look. The cleancut. The holier than thou phoniness. The hypocrisy.


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He wrote a lot about the Andy Kaufman thing. Here was his conclusion:

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