Steven Hertzberg Needs to be Investigated for Fraud
{on edit- these next two links are broken after being merged into the one thread above. Also I apologize for any bad writing I have provided on this forum. I have not made one penny for my efforts. Most of the time I have been able to fix the roughdrafts, other times I have left things the way they were.}
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I've been banned from BreakForDisinfoNews
The last days I've been on the attack as Paulo_Freire at "Fintan Dunne's" disinfo palace. That's the place where Steven Hertzberg of the Election Science Institute had been a prolific poster {Navari} there before being outed. At the end of this post, I'll put up the screenshots from one specific thread.
I had been requesting for a long time to be turned into a guest. One post a while back, I even deliberately cursed in an effort to get banned. I wanted out.
I have read DailyKos posters before saying how Kos does the same thing. He doesn't let people remove themselves from his forum. That's not right. If a person wants to leave a forum, they should be able to.
This is what I saw when I tried to see if there were any developments.
I then went to the proxy. I wanted to make sure I had been turned into a guest. I was surprised to see that my account was still active.
Fakes don't seem to get the point that I am not someone to play games with. I will take screenshots, and I will try my best to articulate my side of the story. John "Sluggo" Dean had requested a while back that I lay off of Bev Harris. I had started to post about the Clinton cigars. There was the brouhaha with Keith Olbermann, tho' I'm not sure I ever posted about that. John Dean, not that John Dean, and myself first met on the internet on the Citizenspook message board. That was right before I would sign up with Fintan's disinfo cult. Basically, there are a few things I could take Bev Harris to task for, but what is really striking is the extent of the attacks on her that have taken place on the Democratic Underground. Plus, with all the good she has done, I wasn't about to let her being a conservative get in the way of formulating a fair assessment of her character. I was never looking to throw Bev under the bus.
Here's a strange post left by Steven Hertzberg/Navari at BreakForNews. Notice how he was turned into a guest. Only the admin can do that. Also notice the date he made the post, and what he said. Quite strange for a Ron Paul supporter, no?
I then tried to sign in with my password through the proxy. This is what I saw.
"Fintan Dunne" has an extensive internet background. He has been prolific at nutjob websites like Rumor Mill News. He is also BreakForNews at the Democratic Underground. He even has claimed to have decoded an alien language. It can take a month or two before someone realises his a total fake. A guy like Kos can go on for years with not so many realising his hidden agendas. Meanwhile, people like Bev Harris can be railroaded and cybersmeared fairly quickly. Lately Kos has been attacking BradBlog for being "conspiracy nutters." I believe that eventually, with all of us, the truth comes out in the wash. We may not always make the best post, but overall, people can figure out if we are sincere or not.
I started to doubt Fintan Dunne about a month or so after thinking he might be legit. It made sense to me that there were all these places on the net like Rense and Flocco making a mockery out of truthseekers. One of the first rightwing talking points from Dunne that became obvious was the over-the-top debunking of global warming. Dunne was presenting BFN as a lefty/peacenik kind of place. Not to get into debating over global warming, but statistically it made no sense how 98% of them were global warming debunkers.
A few years ago he came out with a list of domains he considered to be unduly influenced by the CIA. The list made sense to me, except to be honest, I never heard too much about Bev Harris, BradBlog, or the RawStory that much. I was duped. I became a useful idiot. But there were always a few brave types who would confront "Fintan." Finally, I joined their side. We simply wanted him to cough up the proof for his list. That list turned out to be a big bluff.
Now, I've always had some doubts about him, that perhaps he himself was some kind of intel. type mole. But I never really thought about it too much. I stayed on the chemtrail thread for the most part. I read next to nothing of the other people, just enough to know it would be a rabbithole. I never listened to "Fintan's" audios.
I had an epiphany the other day. I took another look at his list. I was so sure I would see Democratic Underground and Kos listed. But they weren't!
Bev Harris, Bradblog, RawStory, even Ralph Nader were on the list. But I had only seen folks like Flocco, Rivero, and Rense. That's how I was duped for the month or so.
Why Bev, Brad, and Larisa? Why not Kos and and Democratic Underground.
The epiphany was that all these domains are tied together with the election fraud topic. I won't ramble on about this. There is plenty of info already collected. I refuse to keep reinventing wheels. It is up to the reader to decide, to connect the dots.
My Conclusions:
It appears that "Fintan Dunne" and Steven Hertzberg were in some kind of working relationship at BreakForNews. I see no other explanation for Dunne turning Navari into a guest. It served to protect him and hush up all the questions. Navari did two interviews with Fintan, one of which was about Steven's idea of a full spectrum liberty. Navari had made posts about it. He was beyond prolific at BreakForDisinfoNews. BFN reminds me of a cult. Anyone who dared question the majority's views, be them on global warming, chemtrails, or a number of topics I noticed, such as with the fakes list, the herd would bully any independent thought off of the board.
ESI had a close relationship with Damshroeder of Ohio. Hertzberg even started a journal endorsing him. Damschroeder is a Karl Rove Republican. While Hertzberg tried to astroturf that ESI was not partisan or biased in any ways, the truth is that he came out strong against any notions of election fraud. That lines up with DailyKos. Kos makes fun of Brad Friedman, tries to turn him into a "conspiracy nutter." Bev Harris and BradBlog are the two election fraud activists who most call out for paper ballots and an end to the Diebold type machines. Democratic Underground throws Bev Harris completely under a tank, not even a bus. Fintan calls out Brad and Bev as being fakes. When a real fake like Navari got exposed, he protected him, turning him into the guest.
Here's a good Democratic Underground thread in which a few posters were more like Socrates than I could ever hope. At first, Hertzberg is like ask away, I'm right here guys. By the end, after his words were starting to expose his Kos-like attitude towards election reform, he bailed out. Fintan and Hertzberg have been acting as democratics and/or progressives. But if one were to take a guess, after what we know now, they may end up wondering whether both of them work for Karl Rove or one of his associates.
Does anyone know information on Election Science Institute, formerly Votewatch?
All I wanted to have happen was be turned into a guest. Now "Fintan Dunne" has made a strategic error. These facts will filter out into the collective consciousness. People will find out the truth. I have made a few posts today at BradBlog, sharing with them my epiphany.
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...I have found closure with Fintan Dunne, Steven Hertzberg of ESI, Kos, Democratic Underground, Brad, Bev, and Raw Story. Fintan Dunne has taken over my username at his breakfornews disinfo website. He is doing what Kos does as regards to not letting people off his member list.
Here's a preview. Fintan Dunne called out Brad, Larisa, and Bev as being CIA fakes. Who did he leave off the list? Democratic Underground and the DailyKos. Please connect the dots folks. Steven Hertzberg was a prolific poster at break for news. His username was turned into a guest, making it more difficult to check out his posts. My account is still active. But I now need to go to a proxy to view that dive. My password no longer works.
....There is nothing at Dunne's place on Siegelman except for one obscure thread from a long time ago which Dunne ignored. Before he stole my username, Paulo_Freire, I took him to task for having no proof for his fakes list and for ignoring the Siegelman story. I requested that I be turned into a guest, i.e., taken off the members list. Members are unable to do that. Only the admin can. So Hertzberg is scrubbed and pruned, while I am held prisoner?
I believe that Dunne and Hertzberg were attempting to disseminate disinfo through using tactics similar to those used by cults. How was Hertzberg's cover blown? He told his name to another member who requested it, in exchange for going on skype with him. But Hertzberg later pissed that person off. That dude revealed Hertzberg's name. Then that got scrubbed quick. But a third poster took the name and ran with it. Hertzberg was already all over Ron Paul, had already posted about his website ronpaulonline. The third poster connected the dots. He posted about ESI. Hertzberg/Navari had already tried to bully me before. When I learned that he was Navari, then I ran with the ball.
I am a nobody who is sick and tired of all the bull happening on the internet. I have been fighting back.
Here are some screenshots showing what drew me back there and the exchanges with "Fintan" which ended with him hijacking my username.If by the slim chance anyone ever asks you {the reader} about "Fintan Dunne," it wouldn't hurt to direct them towards this thread.
{Not to get paranoid, I wouldn't be surprised if places like BreakForNews and Chemtrail Central are messing with my posts. They've done it with others.If anyone ever reads me, and it doesn't sound like me, there's your answer. Oops, almost forgot to say Fintan not only did two audios with Hertzberg, he also interviewd Ron Paul. Oh yeah, according to Fintan, Sibel Edmonds is CIA too. His new big story is NIU Shooting: The Untold Story, a conspirotainment slant on a recent tragedy. He has had nothing to say about Don Siegelman. Even when I threw him a bone, he had nothing to say on a story that really matters. I don't see him making money off of all his "journalism." Is Fintan Dunne a spook? Heck, yeah, imho.}
is JF a disinfo agent or just cluelless?
{on edit- I've taken down a slew of screenshots I took. If somehow they are altered, and I become aware of that, then the proof can be reposted. The folks at BreakForNews are professional liars. They are running a cult over there. When one has the gall to confront them on their inconsistencies or their apparent ties to Republican/rightwing talking points, one is sent to "Silent Hill." That means one's account is frozen, and the points are ignored until they are bumped off the front page. Then the astroturfers carry on with their bullshit as if nothing has happened.
I resigned up as Not_A_Fake and made a few posts. I am done with them. There are certain paid trolls who never respond to good points. How any of them can justify the freezing of accounts, the bannings, without any public acknowledgement amazes me. My Paulo_Freire account is also still active. So for now, folks can go there and see my posts. Fintan Dunne is a rightwing operative, no doubt. He has nothing on Siegelman. He continues to call BradBlog, Bev Harris, and Sibel Edmonds CIA fakes.}
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Then "Fintan's" researcher, "Kathy McMahon" chimes in. This cult likes to use avatars with the one eye.
{More on edit: If you're gonna ban someone, turn them into a guest. Navari/Hertzberg was turned into one, while others like myself were sent to "Silent Hill," whatever that means. That place is a rightwing disinfo cult dressed in progressive clothes.}
