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Hoffman and AER Again -- in 2006

Unread postby BlueSkyHope » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:53 am

Just happened on this:

Hoffman and AER -- This Time 2006

A Dual Use for Space Solar Power
The global weather control option
Book Series Water Science and Technology Library
ISSN 0921-092X
Volume Volume 54
Book Macro-Engineering
Publisher Springer Netherlands
DOI 10.1007/1-4020-4604-9
Copyright 2006
ISBN 978-1-4020-3739-9 (Print) 978-1-4020-4604-9 (Online)
DOI 10.1007/1-4020-4604-9_7
Pages 87-120
Subject Collection Earth and Environmental Science
SpringerLink Date Sunday, May 27, 2007

Ross N. Hoffman (12), John M. Henderson (12), George D. Modica (12), S. Mark
Leidner(12), Christopher Grassotti (12) and Thomas Nehrkorn (12)

(12) Atmospheric and Environmental Research, Inc, Lexington, Massachusetts, 02421, U.S.A


One day mankind may be capable of controlling the weather on a global scale. The key
factor enabling control of the weather is that the atmosphere appears to be chaotic
and chaos implies sensitivity to small perturbations. Extreme sensitivity to initial
conditions suggests that small perturbations to the atmosphere may effectively
control the evolution of the atmosphere if the atmosphere is observed and modeled
sufficiently well. It is shown that four-dimensional variational analysis dex
four-dimensional variational analysis (4d-VAR) is a data assimilation technique that
has promise for calculating optimal perturbations for weather modification.
Experiments described here demonstrate the ability of 4d-VAR to calculate
perturbations to influence the evolution of a simulated tropical cyclone. In “damage
cost function” experiments described here, 4d-VAR simultaneously minimizes the size
of the initial perturbation and an estimate of property loss that depends on wind
speed. In these experiments the hurricane surface winds decrease over the built-up
area at landfall. It is as if the simulated hurricane "blinks its eye" at a
precisely controlled time. The optimal perturbations usually include
quasi-axisymmetric features centered on the hurricane. It appears that the
perturbation evolves as a concentric wave disturbance that propagates to a focus at
the hurricane center, and converts the kinetic energy of the hurricane into thermal
potential energy at the appropriate time. The hurricane surface winds regenerate
soon thereafter, so a continuous series of perturbations may be needed in practice.
Experiments are described with different control vectors, including all prognostic
variables, temperature only, and temperature only outside of the center core of the
hurricane. The temperature only experiments suggest that precisely prescribed
heating might serve to control hurricanes and other weather phenomena in the future.
Microwave heating dex Microwave heating rate calculations are presented in support
of the concept of dual use space solar power satellites for electric power and for
weather control. These calculations show that by tuning within the 183 GHz water
vapor absorption interval it would be possible to control the height of the maximum
heating. The prototype experiments presented here suggest that global weather
control will eventually become a reality especially since many of the supporting
disciplines will naturally evolve at a rapid pace. The costs associated with recent
damaging hurricanes should cause this pace to accelerate. It is plausible that two
generations from now controlling the global weather may be within the capabilities
and resources of several nations or groups of nations. In the future, NASA’s mission
may explicitly include mention of research to control the weather for the benefit of

Key Words weather modification - hurricanes - space solar power - 4d-VAR

I note this particular bit as being very possibly what is happening at an accelerating pace these days:

The prototype experiments presented here suggest that global weather
control will eventually become a reality especially since many of the supporting
disciplines will naturally evolve at a rapid pace. The costs associated with recent
damaging hurricanes should cause this pace to accelerate.

Acoustic - Another Tinfoil Idea

Unread postby BlueSkyHope » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:22 pm

Mr. Scott Stevens of WeatherWars dot Info, as I mentioned in an earlier post, was talking about "acoustic nodes," in a writeup he did on his site, dated Summer 2007. I find what he quotes (an article entitled "Acoustic node calibration using a moving source," by Cevher, V.; McClellan, J.H. dated from 2006) to be rather less pertinent to the subject of chemtrails than another (more recent) article which I have seen mentioned at "CRREL."

Scott Stevens wrote:That being said, are these chemtrail planes equipped to find, and precisely so apparently, these moving acoustic nodes that are now largely responsible for the worlds manipulated weather?

These chemtrail flights are an absolute requirement for the weather engineers to maintain their hold on our weather. These trails can be used precisely to align the airborne wave generators to get the desired resonate effect in the atmosphere where these warplanes fly.

From what I can make of Mr. Stevens' comment, he is now saying that a LOT of planes are flying around using "acoustic nodes" and "airborne [acoustic?] wave generators" in some manner (I can't quite establish which does what to whom there, in his statements). I guess it's like a "sound cannon" is whacking the clouds into ripples. Well, I guess it could be, but meanwhile, there is apparently some other "acoustic" research going on. Is what Stevens says a kernel of info in a NUT of Disinfo?

Perhaps this is the REAL meaning currently, for acoustic research: to aid the modeling.

US Army Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory

CRREL Researcher Presents Invited Paper at IMAGe Workshop

[Posted 6/18/08] Dr. Keith Wilson presented an invited paper at the NSF-sponsored
Institute for Mathematics Applied to Geosciences (IMAGe) Theme-of-the-Year Workshop
"Observing the Turbulent Atmosphere: Sampling Strategies, Technologies, and
Applications," which was held in Boulder, Colorado, from 28–30 May. The title of the
paper was "Acoustic tomography techniques for observing atmospheric turbulence" and
was co-authored by Vladimir Ostashev (NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory) and
Sergey Vecherin (New Mexico State University and CRREL). It described an innovative
method for mapping the wind velocity and temperature fields in the near-ground
atmosphere based on travel times of acoustic impulse signals. This fits with the
ERDC Business Area Geospatial Research and Engineering and supports the CRREL's
Signature Propagation Technical Area.
POC: [email protected], 603-646-4764

and also

CRREL Researcher Submits Journal Article on Waves in Complex Environments

[Posted 6/18/08] Dr. Keith Wilson, CRREL research physical scientist, was lead
author on the article entitled, "Sound-wave coherence in atmospheric turbulence with
intrinsic and global intermittency." The joint effort by D. K. Wilson, V. E.
Ostashev, and G. H. Goedecke has been accepted for publication in the Journal of the
Acoustical Society of America. The article describes a statistical model for
intermittent (uneven) distribution of scatterers and its effect on wave propagation.
The model can be used to characterize wave propagation and sensor performance in
complex natural and man-made environments such as atmospheric turbulence, forests,
urban terrain, and near-surface geology. This fits with the ERDC Business Area
Geospatial Research and Engineering and supports the CRREL's Signature Propagation
Technical Area.
POC: [email protected], 603-646-4764

Meanwhile, the U. S. military officially admits to "Chaff" and so on. I dug up an old presentation (not sure of the date) and it is currently at this link:

from the days of OTW I guess, late 90's or maybe early 2000's

This is talking about AFWA (Air Force Weather Agency).

The interesting thing I saw was something that retrospectively echoes what I said (so to speak, since I had not seen this PDF when I made my earlier comment that sounds like this) by way of a mention of 4-D Var and MPP's, namely "four-dimensional variational data assimilation procedure in operational timelines on a massively parallel processing computer."

Contrail analysis and prediction schemes are nearing completion, comparing the skill
of the AFWA operational contrail scheme with a statistical model developed from
contrail field experiments. An extensive evaluation of the MM5 model is underway as
a forecast source from which optical turbulence models can diagnose conditions
adverse to the Airborne Laser (ABL) mission. Finally, a 3 year project has begun
that will demonstrate the feasibility of executing a mesoscale four-dimensional
variational data assimilation procedure in operational timelines on a massively
parallel processing computer.

Cloud Modeling and Simulation.

The Cloud Scene Simulation Model (CSSM) has become the cornerstone for in-house,
service-sponsored projects to provide physically and radiometrically accurate cloud
simulations. These projects provide capabilities needed in the Modeling and
Simulation (M&S) community for consistent, physically based synthetic atmospheres to
drive war-gaming,training, system design studies, etc.
The AFRL focus this past year has been in areas such as: (1) transitioning a
cloud/NWP model data fusion approach to the exploitation of National Technical Means
data,(2) designing an extension of the CSSM to support campaign-level simulations in
infrared wavebands, and (3) performing a military utility analysis for the National
Polar-orbiting Operational Satellite System (NPOESS). CSSM has reached a point of
maturity where it is routinely used in war-gaming demonstrations and exercises (for
the Air Force and Navy) and in the conduct of data impact/sensitivity.

HAARP military research & animations

Unread postby Lophofo » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:21 pm

http://wwwppd.nrl.navy.mil/whatsnew/haarp/index.html wrote:H.L. Rowland, Beam Physics Branch, Plasma Physics Division, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C.

By modulating the ambient current flowing in the ionosphere, e.g., the auroral electrojet, it is possible to generate extremely low frequency (ELF) and very low frequency (VLF) radiation. This ionospheric modification technique can provide such waves for probing both the Earth and the ionosphere- magnetosphere. The modification occurs in the lower D-region and can provide information about the ambient conditions in one of the least diagnosed regions of the ionosphere.

The electrojet is modulated by using a high frequency heater (a few MHZ) with the power modulated at the desired ELF/VLF frequency to heat the ionospheric electrons in the lower D-region. Figure 1a shows a sketch of the heater and heated region. The heated region is typically at 75 km (though this depends upon the carrier frequency) and can be 30 km in diameter and a few km thick. Viewed from above (see Figure 1b) the heated region is a roughly circular patch. The smoothness of the heated region depends upon the antenna radiation pattern as well as D-region conditions. The heating increases the electron-neutral collision rate which changes the conductivities. Since on ELF time scales the ambient electric field is constant, modulating the conductivity produces a current modulated at the same frequency. At these altitudes the conductivity change is predominantly in the Hall conductivity. If the ambient electric field, E, is in ±y direction, a time varying current perturbation is generated, j, in the ±x direction (Fig. 1b). The time varying current launches waves both up and down the Earth's magnetic field. In the simulations shown here, we start with a time-varying current and study the downward propagating waves and how they couple into the Earth-ionospheric wave guide.


The animations show 5 different representations of the same simulation. The simulation uses a time-varying current perturbation (1 kHz) in the D-region at 75 km. The current is in the magnetic east-west direction. The Earth's magnetic field is vertical. The simulation box is 1800 by 1800 by 120 km. Isosurfaces are shown for the absolute value of the horizontal magnetic field ABSB and of the vertical electric field ABSEZ. Also shown is the east-west magnetic field in the near-field BX1 and in the far-field BX2. Since the field amplitude falls off with distance, BX1 uses a order-of-magnitude larger isosurface value than BX2 to emphasize the field close to the site. The north- south magnetic field is shown in BY1 and BY2. These plots look slightly different from the absolute value plots where both the positive and negative surfaces were shown. Also BX and BY do have a different orientation of the their radiation patterns. The direction of the radiation is determined by the total horizontal field shown in ABSB and by the vertical electric field shown in ABSEZ. The radiation pattern in the earth-ionosphere waveguide is a combination of a linear dipole antenna and a right-hand circular antenna. At ELF frequencies because of low D-region absorption the dipole is dominant. The dipole radiates in the magnetic east-west direction.

Because 1 kHz is below cutoff the mode in the waveguide is a TEM mode. The mode consists of a horizontal B field perpendicular to the direction of propagation and a vertical electric field. With perfect conductors, the mode is uniform in the vertical direction. As the wave propagates in the waveguide, the top of the wave is approximately at the bottom of the ionosphere. Above the heated region, waves are also launched along the Earth's magnetic field. In the near-field ( BX1 and BY1) one can see the pulse being radiated downward. It strikes the ground and reflects back up to the ionosphere. Part of the energy propagates up the field lines into the ionosphere. This is the bubble seen rising up. The D-region is highly collisional and damps this wave. Looking at BX2 and BY2 one can see that the energy mainly stays in the waveguide. If one looks closely at the top of the wave in the waveguide the wave appears to be curved. The waveguide mode is coupling into the bottom of the D-region and driving a whistler mode up the field lines. The whistlers have a much lower velocity than the waveguide mode and can only propagate along the field lines. This acts to curve the top of the waves. These waves help form the bubble that propagates up the field line. Because of this, the diameter of the bubble is much larger than the heated region.

Above the heated region in ABSEZ one can see a pair of coils revolving around each other. These are the currents that flow up and down the Earth's magnetic field forming the current loops associated with the waves propagating up the field lines. Finally, EZ1 is a blow-up of the high-altitude portion of the vertical electric field for positive values of the electric field; the current loop is more clearly seen.

More details can be found in Rowland et al., JGR, 101, 27027, 1996 and Rowland, JGR, 104, 4319, 1999.

This work is supported by the Office of Naval Research and, in part, by a grant of HPC time from the DoD High Performance Computing Center at the Army Research Laboratory, Aberdeen Proving Ground.

Absolute Value of the Horizontal Magnetic Field


Absolute Value of the Vertical Electric Field

Isosurface at 0.1 mV/m


East-West Component of the Magnetic Field in the Near-Field

Isosurface at 4 pT


East-West Component of the Magnetic Field in the Far-Field

Isosurface at 0.4 pT


North-South Component of the Magnetic Field in the Near-Field

Isosurface at 4 pT


North-South Component of the Magnetic Field in the Far-Field

Isosurface at 0.4 pT


Positive Vertical Electric Field at High Altitudes

Isosurface at 0.01 mV/m


Pretty cool animations, eh?

Unread postby socrates » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:26 pm

Thanks BlueSkyHope and Lophofo for your contributions. It's good to know there is at least one chemtrail forum grounded in reality.

I didn't know where to ask this, and I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but have either of you any opinions on the debunker argument about turbine engines being responsible for our "new and improved" contrails?

One would think that if this were the case, then this argument would have been posted to the yin-yang. I've only seen it a few times. Hertzberg as Navari at BreakForNews hammered away at me with this one. It is also a general debunking point found at Wikipedia.

Debunkers have an answer for everything, don't they? When the video came out from China from right before the earthquake, the word was that those were earthquake lights. So how come such lights are being witnessed also where there has been no reported earthquake activity?

There's simply no place to go where good questions are asked and answered. Everything is being whittled down to that zany script starring closed-minded debunkers and crazy believers.
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Budgetary Items and Discussions

Unread postby BlueSkyHope » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:02 pm

Found three links discussing Weather projects and funding, etc.

Overview 0305111F or 35111F

For Congressional Budget Office 01/15/2008

Peter R. Orszag, Director, CBO wrote:(Because of a lack of information, CBO’s analysis does not address the extent to which classified
research might be supporting unclassified space programs.)

Therein, Program 3 (Intelligence and Communications) is discussed (includes Weather Service); also Program 10 (Support of Other Nations) which includes N.A.T.O.

Unclassified FY 2008 2009 Budget for RDT&E

RDT&E = Research, Development, Test and Evaluation

Put into the Search Box "Laser" for example.

Turbine Engine Improvement Mentioned

Unread postby BlueSkyHope » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:31 pm

I forgot to add this one in, from the previous RDT&E. I had noted there was mention of 0603216F Aerospace Propulsion and Power Technology (turbine engines, etc.).

Maybe that is where that disinfo bunch is getting THAT little ditty. I have also noted elsewhere out in searches that the military is bent on going to 'biofuel' (AKA 'synfuel') so as not to be so totally dependent on [nasty, complicated (politically, etc.), possibly Peaking, certainly expensive] oil SO much.

Unfortunately, for the environment that is, what that really consists of, supposedly, is half each of jet fuel and coal-derived fuel.

Air Force and Synfuel

Here is a link that explains more on the turbine engine thing, too (also search on 0603216F in RDT&E Doc noted above in prior post).


Unread postby Lophofo » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:35 pm

Awesome finds on what the government is up to with our money, BlueSkyHope! I am checking out the material you have posted.

I also enjoyed the info you posted earlier which talked about global weather control. That was a gem of a find.

Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research on weather warfare

Unread postby Isard » Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:18 am

Weather Warfare: Beware the US military’s experiments with climatic warfare
‘Climatic warfare’ has been excluded from the agenda on climate change.

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, December 7, 2007
The Ecologist, December 2007

"HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems globally."

"‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize."

Pdf version of article on Weather Warfare by Michel Chossudovsky, The Ecologist, December 2007 (pdf)

Rarely acknowledged in the debate on global climate change, the world’s weather can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated electromagnetic weapons. Both the US and Russia have developed capabilities to manipulate the climate for military use.

Environmental modification techniques have been applied by the US military for more than half a century. US mathematician John von Neumann, in liaison with the US Department of Defense, started his research on weather modification in the late 1940s at the height of the Cold War and foresaw ‘forms of climatic warfare as yet unimagined’. During the Vietnam war, cloud-seeding techniques were used, starting in 1967 under Project Popeye, the objective of which was to prolong the monsoon season and block enemy supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative – ‘Star Wars’. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Weather-modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025 Final Report, ‘offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary’, capabilities, it says, extend to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts and earthquakes: ‘Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.’

In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General Assembly which banned ‘military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects.’ It defined ‘environmental modification techniques’ as ‘any technique for changing –through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes – the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space.’

While the substance of the 1977 Convention was reasserted in the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, debate on weather modification for military use has become a scientific taboo.

Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol. Neither is the possibility of climatic or environmental manipulations as part of a military and intelligence agenda, while tacitly acknowledged, part of the broader debate on climate change under UN auspices.

The HAARP Programme

Established in 1992, HAARP, based in Gokona, Alaska, is an array of high-powered antennas that transmit, through high-frequency radio waves, massive amounts of energy into the ionosphere (the upper layer of the atmosphere). Their construction was funded by the US Air Force, the US Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Operated jointly by the Air Force Research Laboratory and the Office of Naval Research, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating ‘controlled local modifications of the ionosphere’. According to its official website, HAARP will be used ‘to induce a small, localized change in ionospheric temperature so physical reactions can be studied by other instruments located either at or close to the HAARP site’.

HAARP Program, Alaska

HAARP array of antennas

But Rosalie Bertell, president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health, says HAARP operates as ‘a gigantic heater that can cause major disruptions in the ionosphere, creating not just holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly radiation from bombarding the planet’.

Physicist Dr Bernard Eastlund called it ‘the largest ionospheric heater ever built’. HAARP is presented by the US Air Force as a research programme, but military documents confirm its main objective is to ‘induce ionospheric modifications’ with a view to altering weather patterns and disrupting communications and radar.

According to a report by the Russian State Duma: ‘The US plans to carry out large-scale experiments under the HAARP programme [and] create weapons capable of breaking radio communication lines and equipment installed on spaceships and rockets, provoke serious accidents in electricity networks and in oil and gas pipelines, and have a negative impact on the mental health of entire regions.’*

An analysis of statements emanating from the US Air Force points to the unthinkable: the covert manipulation of weather patterns, communications and electric power systems as a weapon of global warfare, enabling the US to disrupt and dominate entire regions. Weather manipulation is the pre-emptive weapon par excellence. It can be directed against enemy countries or ‘friendly nations’ without their knowledge, used to destabilise economies, ecosystems and agriculture. It can also trigger havoc in financial and commodity markets. The disruption in agriculture creates a greater dependency on food aid and imported grain staples from the US and other Western countries.

HAARP was developed as part of an Anglo-American partnership between Raytheon Corporation, which owns the HAARP patents, the US Air Force and British Aerospace Systems (BAES).

The HAARP project is one among several collaborative ventures in advanced weapons systems between the two defence giants. The HAARP project was initiated in 1992 by Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Corporation (ARCO). APTI (including the HAARP patents) was sold by ARCO to E-Systems Inc, in 1994. E-Systems, on contract to the CIA and US Department of Defense, outfitted the ‘Doomsday Plan’, which ‘allows the President to manage a nuclear war’.Subsequently acquired by Raytheon Corporation, it is among the largest intelligence contractors in the World. BAES was involved in the development of the advanced stage of the HAARP antenna array under a 2004 contract with the Office of Naval Research.

The installation of 132 high frequency transmitters was entrusted by BAES to its US subsidiary, BAE Systems Inc. The project, according to a July report in Defense News, was undertaken by BAES’s Electronic Warfare division. In September it received DARPA’s top award for technical achievement for the design, construction and activation of the HAARP array of antennas.

The HAARP system is fully operational and in many regards dwarfs existing conventional and strategic weapons systems. While there is no firm evidence of its use for military purposes, Air Force documents suggest HAARP is an integral part of the militarisation of space. One would expect the antennas already to have been subjected to routine testing.

Under the UNFCCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has a mandate ‘to assess scientific, technical and socioeconomic information relevant for the understanding of climate change’. This mandate includes environmental warfare. ‘Geo-engineering’ is acknowledged, but the underlying military applications are neither the object of policy analysis or scientific research in the thousands of pages of IPCC reports and supporting documents, based on the expertise and input of some 2,500 scientists, policymakers and environmentalists. ‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

Archive of Global Research articles on Weather Warfare

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WAVE Propagation - further than "they" led us to believe

Unread postby Lophofo » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:03 pm


Before there was HAARP, there were what were termed "AGO"s or Automated Geophysical Laboratories.
These were small buildings at remote locations that provided a way of survival, medical attention, antenna and station repairs
for research at specific geographic locations...usually at unpopulated and hard to get to locations (had to be flown in by the Air National Guard).

In the late 70s and early 80s, Stanford University conducted research at one called Siple Station, Antartica. That was later closed, partly due to its remote location and the difficulty in getting propane and supplies out to this location.

However, based on the success of this station and others, such as the one in Tromsø, Norway...Arecibo, Puerto Rico...and H.I.P.A.S., HAARP was eventually funded and developed.

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HAARP's effects can reach much further than 'they' would like us to believe. Here's an article which talks about it penetrating the lower ionosphere AND its effect reaching several hundred kilometers.

[from the same link]

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Here's a screenshot from an article found in Google cache, saying the same thing:

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This tells us that HAARP can actually be used to send electromagnetic signals between hemispeheres...which is more than just affecting the localized area directly above its origination.

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There should be reason why countries are concerned with HAARP's potential, since it can use the near earth medium to affect areas in different hemispheres.

Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Unread postby socrates » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:29 pm

Here are some interesting finds on barium sulfate and sulfates. The military doesn't have the same jet fuel specifications as do the commercial. I think this explains why the Discovery Channel has buried their special on chemtrails. Good stuff is getting obfuscated all the time.

I found this pretty funky website. It's motto is "climate change is not a spectator sport." They seem corporate and attempting to fill the void left by the crap chemtrail websites. They are Megasprayer without the zany crap. They are debunkers in chemmie clothes. They also have this kind of politico.com kind of feel. A Markos Zuniga kind of where the sassafrassa did they come from? How the heck....

Celsias.com reeks of money and corporate interests.

There are two chemtrail, disinfo posts I could find both by the same lady.


Is it a Bird, Is It a Plane...? Combatting Drought through Cloud Seeding
by Jeanne Roberts

The tinfoil-hat crowd warns us that cloud seeding - which they call chemtrails - will lead to mind control, or at the very least a loss of mental capabilities. Paranoia is rampant in America, especially after nearly a decade of Bush administration policies that have decimated both the economy and the environment (to say nothing of social welfare programs). I sympathize with this extremist fringe, mostly because I have observed chemtrails in the sky over my precipitation-blessed state on perfectly cloudless days, which forces me to question the relationship between these persistent contrails and weather modification. Even so, seeders argue, the chemicals typically used in cloud seeding (silver iodide, hygroscopic chemicals like potassium chloride and sodium chloride, expanded liquid propane, and possibly aluminum or barium sulfate) are only moderately toxic in the concentrations delivered by airborne mechanisms.

She is confusing chemtrails with cloud seeding. Everything is getting blurred by all the different loud voices, the crazy believers, the ones saying it is airliner pollution, the debunkers, the ice-saturaters/paul menace society.

But it gets worse, much worse.

Chemtrails: a Potential Disaster Used to Mitigate an Existing Disaster?
by Jeanne Roberts

I won't provide the links but will put in red parentheses the sources she uses to pimp the Will Thomas global warming strawman, the one pushed so heavily by paid usernames such as Wayne Hall and easily debunked by Jay Reynolds. To equate chemtrails with cloud seeding and then to add in the Will Thomas rubbish is a bad sign. If you want to go to the links, you'll have to go to celsias.com. This is rubbish. This is leading newbies and fence-sitters towards convolution. Worse yet, the writer is making it seem that those are the places to study. I hope this person is a useful idiot. If she is disinfo, her job is to get people to waste time on rabbit holes.

Operation Cloverleaf? Linking to a hoax? Where have we heard this before? Louis Aubuchont anyone? She links to Educate-Yourself? WTF? :evil: If chemtrails are real?

Chemtrails are – if real – part of a project known as Cloverleaf {Carnicom}, initiated in late 1998 and secretly conducted by the military using commercial airliners. Interestingly, 1999 is the first year reports on these aerial displays began to appear.

These chemtrails likely contain barium and aluminum sulfates, chemicals used to produce a highly reflective, ionic cloud which deflects solar energy back into space. This approach is based on observable phenomenon, where active volcanoes releasing sulfates tend to cool the planet in the short term. These reflective clouds of sulfate particles create, in turn, high-pressure weather systems in the area sprayed, and lower pressure systems adjacent – a combination of effects which can be used to move rain clouds, for example, from one location to another via spot-spraying directed by continuous, high-speed computer models.

Many speculate that this weather modification is not being done to benefit the climate, or mankind, but rather to control the weather as an economic tool, moving not only beneficial rain but natural disasters like hurricanes and tornadoes around the continent, and the globe, like so many chess pieces. The chemtrails themselves have been cited as the cause of Morgellon’s Disease, influenza, baldness, and respiratory symptoms similar to pneumonia among people with weakened immune systems. This last leads to further speculation that chemtrails contain bioengineered pathogens {Educate-Yourself} designed to target specific racial groups in a form of population reduction. Others insist the chemtrail ingredients are the direct cause of disappearing honeybee populations.


All the hysteria aside, if the government is using chemicals delivered at high altitudes to mitigate global warming, and these chemicals include barium and aluminum sulfates, it is likely we will see an increase in multiple sclerosis and other neurodegenerative diseases like transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS)....

I provided that last link, because it goes directly to a post made by TOTO at DebateBothSides. WTF??? :twisted:

TOTO was Reddot at Rivero's WRH forum. He is part of the main disinfo crowd that has gone after AAANI. We posted this information before. Multiple sclerosis clusters have been found and documented. There are other health concerns that could be directly tied to chemtrails. It boggles my mind how anyone could seriously link to a paid disinfo writer. This is just another coincidence? Why not link to the original source? WHY LINK TO TOTO AND ALL THESE OTHER NUTJOB LINKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT TAKES TWO SECONDS TO GO TO THE PRIMARY ONES? WOW.


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1. Product Identification
Synonyms: Naturally occurring barium sulfate. CAS No.: 7727-43-7
Chemical Name: Barium Sulfate Chemical Formula: BaSO4
Product Codes: ExBAR, NewBAR


CAUTION! - ACUTE HEALTH HAZARD. May cause eye, skin, and respiratory irritation. May be harmful if swallowed.
DANGER! - CHRONIC HEALTH HAZARD. Breathing crystalline silica can cause lung disease, including silicosis and lung cancer. Crystalline silica has also been associated with scleroderma and kidney disease....

Appearance: Powder – white to tan in color.
Odor: Odorless.
Solubility: Insoluble in water.......

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That was their cap lock, not mine. Moving along to the good stuff.

Determination of cloud microphysical properties by laser backscattering and extinction measurements

R. H. Dubinsky, A. I. Carswell, and S. R. Pal
Applied Optics, Vol. 24, Issue 11, pp. 1614-1622

The extinction and backscattering of 514-nm laser radiation in polydisperse water droplet clouds have been studied in the laboratory. Three cloud size distributions with modal diameters of 0.02, 5, and 12 µm have been investigated. The relationships between the cloud optical parameters (attenuation coefficient σ and volume backscattering coefficient βπ) and the cloud water content C have been measured for each size distribution. It has been found that a linear relationship exists between σ and C and between βπ and C for cloud water content values up to 3 g/m3. The linear relationships obtained, however, have slopes which depend on the droplet size distribution. For a given water content both σ and βπ increase as the modal diameter decreases. The measured data are compared with existing theoretical analyses and discussed in terms of their application to lidar measurements of atmospheric clouds. It is concluded that the empirical information obtained can serve as a basis for quantitative lidar measurements.

© 1985 Optical Society of America

There are some to the powers in this next excerpt which doesn't translate to forum codes. To get the exact formulas, one can go to the link. I am providing these two abstracts just to give people some ideas about atmospheric chemistry, to try to get them to think outside the box.

Uncertainties in the oxygen isotopic composition of barium sulfate induced by coprecipitation of nitrate

Greg Michalski 1 *, Michelle Kasem 2, Jason A. Rech 3, Sabine Adieu 2, William S. Showers 4, Bernie Genna 4, Mark Thiemens 3
1Departments of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences and Chemistry, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 47907-2051, USA
2Department of Chemistry, University of California, San Diego, La Jolla, CA 92093-0356, USA
3Department of Geology, Miami University, Oxford, OH 45056, USA
4Department of Marine, Earth & Atmospheric Sciences, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 26795-8208, USA
email: Greg Michalski ([email protected]

*Correspondence to Greg Michalski, Departments of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences and Chemistry, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 47907-2051, USA.

Funded by:
National Science Foundation


Coprecipitation of nitrate and sulfate by barium has probably resulted in significant error in numerous studies dealing with the oxygen isotopic composition of natural sulfates using chemical/thermal conversion of BaSO4 and analysis by isotope ratio mass spectrometry. In solutions where NO/SO molar ratios are above 2 the amount of nitrate coprecipitated with BaSO4 reaches a maximum of approximately 7% and decreases roughly linearly as the molar ratio decreases. The fraction of coprecipitated nitrate appears to increase with decreasing pH and is also affected by the nature of the cations in the precipitating solution. The size of the oxygen isotope artifact in sulfate depends both on the amount of coprecipitated nitrate and the 18O and 17O values of the nitrate, both of which can be highly variable. The oxygen isotopic composition of sulfate extracted from atmospheric aerosols or rain waters are probably severely biased because photochemical nitrate is usually also present and it is highly enriched in 18O (18O 50-90) and has a large mass-independent isotopic composition (17O 20-32). The sulfate 18O error can be 2-5 with 17O artifacts reaching as high as 4.0. Copyright © 2008 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
Received: 11 June 2008; Revised: 17 July 2008; Accepted: 20 July 2008

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Last couple links:

Sachtleben announces price increases for titanium dioxide and barium sulfate

That gives me an idea. Hey, what is this?

70560 Zip Code Detailed Profile

[b]Major facitilies with environmental interests located in this zip code:


(Integrated Compliance Information System) - ICIS-06-2005-0630, ENFORCEMENT/COMPLIANCE ACTIVITY
FORMAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION (Integrated Compliance Information System) - ICIS-06-2005-0630, ENFORCEMENT/COMPLIANCE ACTIVITY
TRI REPORTER (Tracking of toxic chemicals releasing facilities)


Companies with federal contracts located in this zip code (NEW IBERIA, LA):


There are a lot aviation and other businesses in that zip code with military contracts. I see oil related companies. That is one busy, obscure city.

I am not trying to create any rabbit holes. I am thinking if barium and other chemicals are part of the chemtrail formula, perhaps there is some kind of money trail.

ICE 2004 exhibitors listed by products (as of July 8, 2004).

Excalibar Minerals, Inc. is listed. The current page only contains half of what was originally posted. I am not sure at all this has anything to do with chemtrails. But something feels funny about this barium selling company.

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Development of High Throughput Coatings Methods Using Gradients--Jeffrey Gilman, Cindy Montgomery, Richard Harris Jr., Rick Davis, and Lori Brassell, NIST, Gaithersburg, MD; Naomi Eidelman, Paffenbarger Research Center, Gaithersburg; Bruce Mank and Steve Smith, Fluidic Systems, Santa Ana, CA; Joel Johnson, Air Force Laboratory, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; and Bill Culhane, University of Dayton, Dayton, OH....

Ok, last one. From a pdf:
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