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Lucid Dreamer · Guest

First, I am so glad that I found this place. I was beginning to think that I was alone in this Fake-Forum theory philosophy. : )

Can I vent?

I am a forum board surfer and have been for a few years now. I have had several accounts at several places across the world wide Intertubes and I know Socrates, that I have run across you somewhere. (I say that in a good way)

But for quite some time I have noticed 2 significant traits these “Fake Forums” share. (1) There’s a little group of .... I dunno .... 5 who steers the conversation to their liking and become the “Deciders” of whether you get booted off their “Island” or not. (2) At some point, a forum board will crash just as I settle in and before I know it, it rises again- but a little altered. The board may look the same and the names haven’t changed, but it’s “Different”. You know. And by the time you’ve looked back and God’s gotten the news, you have lost several posts and the admin :::Blinks:::: doesn’t know how that happened.

JUST 2 examples: I went to an old account at Colbert Nation and I only have 4 surviving posts from 27.

Dang..... Just Dang....

A lot of time goes into some of these posts. Effort, as well- but mostly, thoughts and occasionally, a little heart.

The Conspiracist in me feels as though this is part of the NSA's wiretapping scheme, in order to muffle dissent.

But another, more cynical side, feels that if it's not entertaining enough, "Swipe it"

Another Board I belonged to was: Conspiracy Café where (in their ranking system) I went from "Junior" Member to "Plotting" Member- I Mean, "Plotter" And in another post where I displayed the American Flag upside down, was removed because it was considered offensive.

And I KNOW that I had more than 13 frakkin posts.

The thing was that, the ones that are all gone are ones I’ve disagreed with Mods, Popular members, and Admin and those to do with topics of dissent, regarding the food supply, The Iraq War, Mad Cow Disease, even (Don’t laugh) John Titor..

But those are not the only 2 nor the latest Fake forums I have run across. There are 2 others I’ll discuss and I look forward to sharing.. But I don’t want to ramble and ramble on my 1st post.

Hope to see you out there.

Dreamer

socrates · Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 1007

Welcome Dreamer,

Venting is good.

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You have me wondering where we crossed paths. There were a few of us at HuffingtonPost talking fake this, fake that a bit. You mention John Titor. Try having to admit you posted at Fintan Dunne or Chemtrail Central. Yeah, that looks good on the resume.

That posse theory sounds right. They have it at the Democratic Underground. I've seen that in the election reform and dungeon forums. I got into DailyKos just a bit when it came out he had worked for the CIA. His gang has also put a clampdown on election fraud proof being discussed.

I have been a sucker at a lot of forums. I go in thinking yes, finally, a place to call home. Progressive Independent. Wow. Now they are supporting Ron Paul. Yeah, that makes sense, not. I thought the Randi Rhodes forum was the real deal. But then I found out there was some purge back in 2005. People with thousands of posts were canned. When I'd try to figure out why they were banned, there was usually no good reason. There's someone named BushWa at Randi Rhodes who reeks of being a plant. He's made 30-40 posts a day for years. He came out saying Randi should have been canned. He's also been on Democratic Underground posting the same thing.

And the Randi Rhodes forum for now is gone, flushed away. I looked around, and maybe it is being revived. But this name Ben Burch keeps popping up, and I think he is a fake or incompetent. I had a lot of hope for the Randi Rhodes Message Board. But in all honesty, it has been on my radar system for a while as being very compromised.

Where else is there to go? Even if one doesn't get banned at Democratic Underground, it's a friggen chat club. I went to BradBlog, and Agent99 was deleting and scrubbing my posts, while protecting neonazi trolls and other outrageous posters. Brad is legit though, imho, and he put a stop to that. But the damage is done. Even the BradBlog comments section seems controlled. But don't get me wrong. I trust Brad and a lot of the people posting there.

But seriously. Raw Story, Crooks and Liars, firedoglake, quarters something with larry spooky johnson. I'd like to know of one major forum that seems to have fair moderating, freedom of association, and minimal amounts of paid trolling.

Back to this steering committee thing. You are right. The last months I've started to think maybe they try to run these things like a cult. Because at BreakForDisinfo News, anyone thinking global warming has a lot to do with human activities got jumped on bad. And these are supposed to be progressives? One quote on a Dunne post at DU says it all. I wish I had the link. The person basically said that Fintan Dunne is a republican operative.

But there are enough of us who save posts, who take screenshots, and we are forum hounds, and we don't want to be silenced. We hate injustice. The more we get squeezed, the more determined we are to expose them. It's like that saying don't feed the trolls. Well, they are messing up by feeding the troll busters.

Some folks are probably saying we are paranoid, that we turn computer glitches into some conspiracy to silence us. They say we must have big egos to think anyone cares about what we or others post. But we have the proof. This WRH "unofficial" forum/Mike Rivero thing was nuts. Who the hell am I to end up having fake socrates created? Who the hell am I that there was all this crazy stuff going on. And the problem is this is about esoteric rabbit holes, but true ones nonetheless. It would probably take someone many, many hours, perhaps days to get through that WRH thread here, which is proof of the type of thing you mention. May41970 got jumped on by the pack. Now that whole place has been scrubbed? At least the most important thread to save was saved. It shows how allegedly I am Mossad and my lawyer's name is Cohen. You can't make this stuff up. I sincerely think whichever pack of creeps was behind that, they messed up. They didn't scrub and prune quite good enough.

The dark side or whatever is saying so what, you figured us out, but no one cares. But some care. And we chug along. And who knows what any one of us may come up with. Some guy at HuffingtonPost had a great line. It's not the one blow that knocks down the tree, it's all the accumulated hacks. There is strength in numbers. I think people are becoming net savvy. Too bad there isn't a real big forum with clean rules. Things definitely seem to have gone downhill for internet forums the last couple years. I think this started when Libby got off the hook. It was a definite wtf moment. It was classic bait and switch. There's no other better phrase to describe the overall internet atmosphere, other than it's teeming with pyschological operations. In short, they've overplayed this kooky internet strategy, imho.

NSA, Cointelpro, astroturfing, fbi, corporations, all these alphabets. But you are right about the NSA being the top dogs for being fascists. I used to think things like that were all CIA. But then the Netvocates/Rendon Group thing emerged. I learned that the NSA was the #1 intelligence agency, or whatever they think they are.

Sorry to talk so much. Hey, please private message me where we posted at the same place, if you don't want to reveal it. I promise not to tell anyone. I'm just curious.

Lucid Dreamer · Guest

I thought the Keith Olbermann site was a little stuffy but alright when I first logged in several monthgs ago under a different name. Became quite popular until I began talking about how 9/11 was allowed to happen and Gallup Polls are rigged.

They wanted none of that.

So, after a while I wanted to see how it would be to admin my own forum board. But it wasn't until Super Tuesday, when their site went down for 2 days that I took action and built a refugee area where those from KO's could come in from the rain, so to speak.

When the board went back up. The admin REALLY didn't like me. (I guess he felt threatened and wondered if I was fixing to cash (or is that Cache ) in on his domain.

I couldn't care less about that.

And as an Admin of my own Forum, I began to see things from His eyes and I could tell he was lying about so many things. Like not having access to anyones IP addresses on the forum and other inconsistancies that I was staring to REALLY see.

Then, I defended someone on the forum who was being attacked without provocation. So, the admin sends one of his members to my site to spy , return to "The Lighthouse" as they like to call it, and called me everything but a civilized person- how Me and this other "ex Member" were talking trash about the old forum at KO's. Of course, we weren't. But I like to think that what is said at my site in a private room at my site, stays at my site.

I didn't have a chance to speak my peace, my point of view, my account was deactivated, & -- I guess for good measure- they decided to delete over 41 of my posts.

But luckily, I keep most of my posts.

If you'll notice, the board name has changed from KeithOlbermann.org to LeftBent.com and one of the admins left.

Dreamer formerly Aunt Bee

Lucid Dreamer · Guest

socrates · Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 1007

It turns out that myself and Dreamer never crossed paths on the internet. It also turns out that 41 of her posts were deleted from the Olbermann unofficial forum. I will address that on the thread started in the astroturfing section.

One suggestion I have is that it would be nice for you to post some good, progressive news stories. There's a thread called The News, where you could add to it. This place really does shun the way out there material. We do, because such an approach could turn folks off to the things we can prove.

Thanks for your avatar. That's got to be the cutest bear ever. You might want to take a look at may41970's thread called A Smile. There's a video with a big lion giving a nice lady a hug.

Lucid Dreamer · Guest

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