Just to remind folks, Nearly every post that says October 30th was not written on that date. We were hacked by someone out of the Attributor Corporation.
Here is some of the proof of who made the bumps- 126.96.36.199http://www.imageposter.com/uploads/get/550362
From the Whois:
Thanks for the footprint, *******.
Isard, even though he is from Spain, has perhaps looked into the 9/11 questions far more than myself. On one thread, I moved one of his posts questioning a link I used. It wasn't that he didn't have a point. The link I used was a 9/11 debunker one. But I used it in my attempts to clarify how the right woos left astroturfing works.
I too believe that 9/11 was an inside job. I don't think Bush or Cheney were behind it. I think it was sinister rogue forces, a true small conspiracy. GW is creepy, but I don't think he knew one thing about how it had nothing to do with Bin Laden.
9/11 truths are certainly getting suppressed by an organised trolling brigade who dominate the major "progressive" forums. DailyKos doesn't even allow one bit of discussion on it. While places like DU and the RRMB allow the "truthers" to be stalked and harrassed.
I am thinking rogue elements of the CIA, perhaps a few Bilderbergs, some creeps out of dark corners of NATO, these are who I believe were behind the 9/11. There are good sources which indicate that Bin Laden has probably been dead for years. I do believe that the way the buildings fell was shady. The one thing I always wondered about were the airliner put options. Extraordinary claims do demand extraordinary proof. People do need to weed out crazy believers. People do need to seek out the best sources. This next one appears to be a keeper.
I found this at the DU Dungeon. Strangely enough, the debunker trolls are avoiding this thread
Foreign Policy Journal Exclusive!Senior Corporate Executives Warned to Leave N.Y. on 9/11
November 3, 2008
by Jeremy R. Hammond
...There have been numerous other indications that individuals within the U.S. had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
One such indication was the evidence of insider trading in the days just prior. Short selling and trading in put options, which are essentially bets that stock will drop, skyrocketed over a period of days before 9/11 only in companies that were directly affected.
For instance, purchases were made on 4,744 put options for United Airlines between September 6 and 7. On September 10, purchases were placed on 4,516 put options for American Airlines. United and American were the two airlines that had planes hijacked and destroyed in the attacks. There was no similarly unusual trading in other airlines.
Other companies directly affected also experienced a spike in the purchase of put options, such as Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and Merril Lynch, both of which had offices in the World Trade Center.
Numerous countries around the world, including the U.S., Japan, Germany, the U.K., France, Luxembourg, Hong Kong, Switzerland, and Spain, opened investigations into what had apparently been insider trading based on foreknowledge of the attacks.
Together, these purchases were worth millions. Yet with the reports of insider trading and foreknowledge circulating in the media, whoever was responsible chose not to collect the money.
One of the banks involved in the purchases was Alex Brown, the U.S. branch of the German Deutsche Bank, which was headed until 1998 by A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard. He afterwards joined the CIA, and was Executive Director of the agency at the time of the attacks....
I did get a few posts in on another thread concerning the questions about Bin Laden's health. One can see that the debunkers avoid any good questions posed.9/11 Truth: Justice Will Be Served
I am USofFascism, DoNotLie, and UWillLoseDU. People might find my posts of interest. I was a busy poster at DU for a good stretch of days. I came up with a lot of good info and stated my case. I was in no way acting like a troll.
I also got in on the recent chemtrail thread.link
I've only seen that they deleted two of my posts from a discussion with Mark Lindeman in the electoral integrity forum. Folks can read those screenshots on the Fintan, Hertz, brad, du, etc. thread in astroturfing. It was revealing what they left out and how they try to frame the tombstoned. The mods there are clearly owned by the fake debunkers.
On the chemtrail thread I made two posts. One as USofFascism explaining that I am not OKthatsIT. Then I had to sneak back in one last time as ThisIsWhy to offer the realistic explanations for the chemtrailing, that they are primarily for blocking out uv-b rays and taming climate change through the Dr. Evil sciences.
Maybe I can periodically check to see if they delete anymore of my stuff. If they don't, I will never go back to the DU.