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attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument. dictionary.reference.com/browse/Ad%20hominem
Socrates named this thread: "The "Chemical Trails" Haven" Heaven? Is this a religion now?
I tracked the other 6 posts posted by "this last name left", and found them to be quite well construed and his argumentation is of the kind one can't just disregard as nonsense... he DOES back his thoughts and findings up with rational explanations and proof.
Socrates, your reaction is really strange, to say it politeley.
If you want to run forums for people to participate in, you would at least give them a chance to be heard out.
Chemtrails heaven... chemtrails are not kooky ..... How can one discuss these issues if it is not allowed to question the issues at all?
"Our Chemtrails, which arsed our heaven,
hollowed be thy name. Thy kingdom is in these forums of ours.
Thy will be done by banning members on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily trailing ..."
...Maybe you were just drunk or drugged or hit your head on the monitor or something... and were not totally in control of your actions.
In any case you don't seem to be ok in your head.... maybe sniffing too many chemtrails? You should cut down on that addiction boy!
"Chemtrails" ARE SODA POP. Put them through a carbon filter for sure, and each mile of "chemtrail" will get you a crate of soda pop.
The stratosphere is stable and layered like an onion with layers of differing humidities. A "saturated" layer will NOT reabsorb the trail, which will
slowly fall and form stratus or cirrus cloud. That is what you see...
Want some soda pop? I'm nuts for soda pop! Are you?
Just to make it clear to the couple of other people who are members here: Last Name Left was BANNED after the post I quoted in my post.
Then he made me and others aware of having been banned for posting his one post in here, and I was flabbergasted by your behavior. One would/should expect an apology from you for all the namecalling and other **** you threw around you, completely without reason.
I expect LNL to debunk you to kingdom come on this issue
This all begs the question.
WTF are these debunkers doing all over the internet ridiculing us if this is such a crazy hoax?
If chemtrails are so crazy, why all the attention?
may41970 wrote:My moderator status has been revoked due to a serious disagreement between me and socrates, specifically about the handling of this thread.
This is my last post, for now - maybe ever. I no longer wish to be a member of this forum, and I would like to have my membership cancelled.
Best wishes to everyone here.
Goodbye, whether for now or forever, I don't know.
XZZZX333: (3 days ago)
Jazzroc is a spook!
jazzroc: (2 days ago)
XZZZX333 doesn't HAVE to do ALL sites because some ban Jazzroc directly, not wanting free debate.
There's a fine stitch-up, eh?
There has been a site which PRETENDED to be debating with me, after it had ALREADY blocked me.
Such FINE behavior.
Hypocrisy doesn't engender trust....
Bard of Ely wrote:...One of my friends, Andre, who runs Outlaw News - http://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/ - had said, and I agreed with him, that chemtrails were the most important issue of all and the most serious danger to life on Earth. This view is actually held by many chemtrail-believers who are sure that the elite are really trying to kill as many of us off as possible.
One topic that often crops up though, is how are the elite ensuring that they remain safe when they have to breathe the same poisoned air and eat foods from the same poisoned environment? ....
Meanwhile in Tenerife I had seen sun halos on days that there were chemtrails in the sky. The halos were clearly being caused by the whitish haze that is made as the trails spread out and form artificial cloud cover. I had read that such halos were very rare and, indeed, I had never seen any in my entire life apart from in pictures.....
Back in Tenerife I carried on corresponding with fellow chemtrail-believers and posting blogs and wrote a hubpage article on the subject. Now I have a friend who lives on the island called Tony Duncan but who posts on the Internet as JazzRoc and one day I was surprised to find that he had found my chemtrail blogs at Myspace and disagreed so much with them that he was calling me a "fool" and "deluded." He said that he was "going to fight me on this." And he did!
JazzRoc, who is a scientist and does know what he is talking about, started posting his opinions in the comments area at all chemtrail videos he could find online and very soon got a name as a "debunker" and a "paid disinformation agent." He was also being called a "CIA employee," a "shill,"and accused of "working for the government."
I knew this was madness from people who knew nothing about him at all and in fact the last job I knew he had was a community gardener - a far cry from CIA employee! JazzRoc was adamant that chemtrails didn't exist and that what we were calling such were no more than persistent contrails and were made up of water vapour. He also explained that the phenomenon has been caused by a vast increase in air traffic and that contrails like this were nothing new but had been recorded and photographed at other times in the last century.
There was no room for agreeing to disagree with him and at one point because I considered him to be very rude I blocked him from my contacts at Myspace. We also got into a heated argument at hubpages and by e-mail.
Meanwhile JazzRoc had become so infamous as a "professional debunker" that he managed to get himself banned from YouTube and was later to repeat this at the David Icke forums.
However, in the course of our argument he asked me if I realised that halos (of sun and moon) were caused by ice crystals, and also pointed out that dust and solid particles, which chemtrail-believers say are in the trails cannot create halos or rainbow effects of any type at all. Chemtrail-believers even have a new term "chembow" for colours being seen in the new artificial clouds made from the trails.
That was all it took to break the spell I was under. I knew that halos around the moon were made of ice crystals so it was obvious they were what caused the sun halos too. I knew also that solid particles cannot create halos or rainbow effects. On this island we get dust clouds from the Sahara that are known as calimas and whilst they make the sky really foggy looking they never ever have halos around the sun or moon.
I could see that somehow my belief system and association of sun halos with what I was calling chemtrails was wrong and that my belief had blinded me to logical reasoning. I had to apologise to JazzRoc and thank him for teaching me something that all my research had failed to do. I now knew that there were no threats from chemtrails because what we are seeing are contrails as the authorities have maintained all along...
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