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Re: Jazzroc is Disinfo

Unread postby socrates » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:43 am

anthony.r.duncan wrote:
socrates wrote:I'm surprised you haven't looked more into this rather than the dead-end chemtrails versus contrails debates. It's like with global warming. The deniers trot out their small list of scientists and political operatives in an attempt to turn the undebatable into an enigma. I think it's fairly accepted that Frankensteinian geoengineering ideas are no good. But there has been a push to cover up the Dr. Evil part of it, from Paul Crutzen to guys like Wigley and Benford.


A year and a half ago I knew nothing at all about "chemtrails". These names I don't know.



I checked out some threads at the completely rigged and gamed Outlaw Journalism Forum to see wtf Jazzroc was lying about with the following comment about Uri.


She's the only person to label me a mass-murderer. How would YOU react?


He makes it sound like she was a ranting lunatic. She wasn't calling him a mass murderer, but that as someone who worked for the military, that he has blood on his hands. Yes, he does.

Jazzroc alleges to have engineered military weapons. His claim of being an anarcho-socialist or whatever rings hollow. He also claims to be a buddhist atheist. Uri called him out good on that one. If one doesn't get caught up trying to read his headache slice and dice hatchet jobs on folk's posts, you can see that he is working scams. Useful idiot or paid disinfo? Those are the only two choices I see.

Jazzroc is the debunker version of Halva {"Wayne Hall"}. Stalinists, anti-social, dogmatic, utterly sporadic.

A normal debunker would be cool. Closed-minded debunkers out of the cookie cutting university will not do.

He chops and sautees everyone's posts out of context. As someone else said, he is a time waster.


Sorry about that Uri. Feel free to pm me if anyone else you know is a suspected troll. Though now I probably sound just like all this astroturfing Kos Kop/troll pack paranoia.

But that's stuff for real. Google MajorFlaw Daily Kos UGOG DaveFromQueens.com Lachow Fingerit.

I looked into it. Daily Kos has been gamed, and somewhat rigged because the admins were aware of a clandestine cointelpro-like attack unit and a bunch of them let them have full reign to do their crapola.

It's a crazy internet out there for sure, even at the big places like Kos and Democratic Underground.

This was/is an interesting thread. It's as if he picked the most normal looking one to newbies to disrupt and derail.

Or he has some severe anti-social skills.

I think he's a spook. How could he say he never heard of Paul Crutzen?

Hey Uri, then people like us get called troublemakers for just being down-to-earth and telling it like it is.

The final straw was seeing how he was discussing Paul Crutzen with one of the only normal posters there. But earlier in this thread, he claims to have never heard of Paul Crutzen.

He really is fairly dumb as a debunker. His talk of the stratosphere was ridiculous, as if chemtrails are being witnessed from aircraft in their cruising elevations.

He could very well be paid disinfo, in my humble opinion.
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Re: Obama's Scientific Advisor on Geoengineering

Unread postby socrates » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:17 am

First Person: John Holdren on Global Warming
AP News wrote:Tinkering with Earth's climate to chill runaway global warming, a radical idea once dismissed out of hand, is being discussed by the White House as a potential emergency option, according to the president's new science adviser. {April 8}



But chemtrails is such a crazy, hoax idea? Chemtrails appear to be used to combat uv-b rays. I base this on why else would the operations be going on so often. The last year has been very slow for chemtrails here in Boston. Perhaps with this new story, things are set to take place much higher up in the stratosphere.

Crutzen and another dude said that ozone in the troposphere is much more effective in attenuating uv-b rays than that found in the stratosphere. That is the smoking gun, in my honest opinion for why we get chemtrailed.

If chemtrails were really contrails and a result of increased air traffic, why aren't we getting slammed so much of late?

I am 99.99% sure that chemtrails are not contrails.
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Re: Geoengineering and Hard Science Made Easy

Unread postby socrates » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:05 pm

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Re: Geoengineering and Hard Science Made Easy

Unread postby socrates » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:52 am

If you look closely at this small image, there appears to be some type of aviation trail surrounded by cirrus aviaticus. Yet according to the article, this is the driest area on the planet.

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Coldest, Driest, Calmest Place on Earth Found

{fair use excerpt from Live Science} The search for the best observatory site in the world has lead to the discovery of what is thought to be the coldest, driest, calmest place on Earth - a place where no human is thought to have ever set foot.

To search for the perfect site to take pictures of the heavens, a U.S.-Australian research team combined data from satellites, ground stations and climate models in a study to assess the many factors that affect astronomy - cloud cover, temperature, sky-brightness, water vapor, wind speeds and atmospheric turbulence.

The researchers pinpointed a site, known simply as Ridge A, that is 13,297 feet (4,053 meters) high up on the Antarctic Plateau on the continent at the bottom of the world.

The study revealed that Ridge A has an average winter temperature of minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 70 degrees Celsius) and an extremely low amount of water in the air....


Today, or er yesterday, we had more suspicious fake cloud cover created. I don't even post every time this occurs. It's an aberration when we go periods of time without this happening. According to science, there needs to be necessary conditions for cirrus aviaticus to form. Those conditions are not always there. Persistent contrails should be very rare. They are not, and for the many other tinfoil free factoids presented by this forum, we now know for sure that chemtrails are indeed real. There is 0% chance that what we are witnessing is the result of ordinary commercial aircraft contrails. Patrick Minnis of NASA has been proven to be an internet troll. Mark Steadham got busted whitewashing his post about him being Canex a year before Sore Throat "outed" him. Minnis was saying he was a nobody with a hobby of debunking the chemtrail hoax. But I secured the proof via the wayback machine. In an email Minnis said he'd never heard of Mark Steadham. So how did Steadham know that Minnis was Canex? If there was nothing fishy going on why did Steadham alter that post saying that Minnis was indeed Canex? Why didn't Steadham aka Thermit ever admit to being an employee of NASA even once at Chemtrail Central? It's not a delusion of grandeur for me to say I am the most important chemtrail writer of all time. I have supplied the proof that chemtrails are real. I've explained what they are for. I have thoroughly exposed the internet disinformation surrounding this issue. I have a solid academic background. I know what I have come up with, and so do you the good readers. Now don't be afraid to sign up and help keep hope alive for exposure and accountability for this bullshite.
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