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Re: DebateBothSides and Jay Reynolds

Unread postby socrates » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:31 pm

There's a lot of chemtrail forum script to be found at DebateBothSides. After years of nonsense, the script has been fully figured out. The nutjobs like Halva and Aubuchont versus the nutjob named Jay Reynolds turned into an enigma. Neither side fulfilled their facade of motivation. Deborah/Footsoldier was meant to fill the void with some kind of twisted dialectic. Her messaeg is that yes, aviation emissions do create an enormous amount of fake clouds. But her astroturfing spiel has been that all aircraft are de facto spray planes. My explanation of the chemtrails makes the most sense. But that is because I am not paid to post. People like me are not meant to be so persistent and hang around until the truth gets some fair play action. I was the monkey wrench thrown into the stew. A nobody has figured out the bullcrap, documented it, and come up with the true meaning of chemtrails.

Now for newbies and fence-sitters who might be thinking, well, how is Jay Reynolds a nutjob? The answer is William Cooper.

That dude is one of the original conspiracy theorists who gained popularity along with Rivero, Alex Jones, Jack Blood, uhm, others. I have three links to provide for this post. I will only say that there are no doubts at all that Jay Reynolds worked alongside William Cooper. That is and will always be his achilles heel. Deborah was meant to fill the void. Not to sound like a pompous jackass, I know that is tough not to do, but I am the one who exposed her and others as being debunkers in chemmie clothes. In short, the script has been figured out and exposed. Case closed. 8)

Here is the newspaper report which told of how Cooper died:

William Cooper Update Sierra Times 11.06.01

Here is a recent thread I found dealing with William Cooper's demise:

What Happened to Bill Cooper when he exposed the NWO's plan for 9/11?

There is a troll in there with the avatar of a squirrel with his scrotum hanging down, Koko something. It is safe to say that is the same troll named Larry/Lophatt who trolled me concerning the What Really Happened ********.

I recommend folks look into this William Cooper to see exactly how much of a nutjob he was. Then make sure to see that is a fact that he was a close associate of Jay Reynolds. Thus, Jay Reynolds, for all intents and purposes, will always have zero credibility.

Finally, here is an interesting take on William Cooper that says he was a useful idiot for a disinformation racket. While I can't vouch for it, perhaps it is true. I do wonder why William Cooper went the suicide by cop route.

There are no aliens. UfOs are military aircraft, weather balloons, bugs, you name it. There are no aliens. Zero, zip, nada.

William "Bill" Cooper, a manipulated misinformant of the 90's?




Finally, for practical purposes I have made a truce with Lophofo. That can be found at DebateBothSides in the off-topic section with a cross-post thread I started on Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. It's gotta hurt Lou Aubuchont badly that Lophofo has taken back the claim that he has proof that may41970 and myself are the same person. The same thing happened with Starman1 at Chemtrail Central. On the flip side, there is a lot of proof that Aubuchont is a cointelpro-like operative. There is concrete proof that he does use sock puppets.

I am not going to go into more details about why myself and Lophofo have called a truce. Sometimes things cannot be explained in a day or weeks or even a year. This story may be figured out, but it is going to take time. It is one thing to suspect someone is an "intelligence" or disinfo agent, but it is quite another to prove it. For all intents and purposes we {er, myself actually} have been able to make a final call on Aubuchont based on proof. It will actually be kind of interesting to see how he takes the news that his key eyewitness has recanted.

I wish Lophofo the best. He has a beautiful family and a deep desire that America be strong and prosperous. that is one desire both right and left can agree on. Part of cointelpro's goals is to f%ck with our minds. That can be seen for example with Aubuchont's historic rants and frothings. Disinfo agents want us to feel debilitated and worthless. But for at least this one battle, the good guys have won. "Louis Aubuchont" is living proof that there are warped disinformation agents on the internet. His goal has been to make chemtrails look kooky. Not only that, he works on other issues as Lou and with other usernames all across the internet distorting democracy. Lou turned out to be my *****, one of my biggest triumphs. I don't hate him, for he is not really who he portrays himself as on the internet. He is an example of a psychological warrior. We all now what the paid trolls sound like. Many of them sound exactly like Lou.

These fockers tried to mess with my head. It couldn't be done. I survived and they disintegrated. While they wanted me to get bogged down with their petty internet existences, I moved on to cover real life names conducting internet troll operations.

There is also a reason why Jay Reynolds has virtually disappeared. He too has no credibility. For him to return to the scene too often would give newbies and lurkers the opportunity to find out about his very close ties to a nutjob known as William Cooper.Now what if someone were to say that Patrick Minnis of NASA had been involved with this stuff also? That wouldn't be too believable, would it? Well, he actually made many posts at Chemtrail Central as Canex. That has been confirmed as fact. Now it turns out Mark Steadham worked or still works for NASA. Has he mentioned that once at Chemtrail Central? No, he hasn't. Now why is that?

As for Lophofo, I will cut him slack. He may also not be what he portrays himself as, but deep down, he is a nice person and truly believes in America and conservative values. I don't believe he would ever break the law. I do believe that while he is badly mistaken on many topics, I think that his job as a blogger is much more benign than that of the sadistic ones who do this. I can understand how a rightwinger would work the internet with the idea of promoting national security. I might not agree with his not admitting to this. But I do believe that he would never hurt a fly, unless he was fighting in a war or for self-defense. A guy like Aubuchont and some of these others, well, I cannot say the same. Aubuchont is a pure fascist. Lophofo is just who he is based on his upbringing and training. I still believe that the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith are full blown hoaxes or delusion, but it is what it is. I may have some serious concerns about Lophofo that I am not yet ready to share with the readers, but I do believe that deep down he is a good guy. Not everyone who is paid to work the internet is downright evil. There is something in this world referred to as a spectrum. Lophofo simply is very patriotic and pious based on his upbringing and training. I would like to think that my being a peacenik would lead him to believe that even if he doesn't agree with me, that he would fight for my rights to freedoms of speech and whatnot. This is probably for the best. Now neither of us have to worry anymore about holding back with our true beliefs for fear of offending the other. I am happy that he realises that I am harmless and pose no threat to national security. I don't. But Aubuchont does with his psychological violence.

We are human. Sometimes we are going to make mistakes. But deep down, we are either violent or not. Lophofo and myself are not violent. We are polar opposites, but we are both Americans hopeful and striving for a better world, and as Lophofo has said, that does count.

I have been blogging since around 2005. I have always tried my best to let the modern day cointelpro know that I abhor violence and pose no threat. I mean that 100%. In my own way as a Boston liberal {actually a socialist}, I am as much an American as anyone else. I believe that Lophofo in his position can understand this, as I am trying to accept him too for who he is. As Rodney King asked, "Why can't we all get along?" Most of us can. The true threat from within is with people like Louis Aubuchont. There is no place for such nastiness and psychological operations in a democratic society.
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Re: Day Glo

Unread postby socrates » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:32 pm

The major chemtrail forums continue to supply plenty of nonsense. I don't check them out that much anymore. Carnicom forces me to use a proxy to view his website. No loss there. Cliff banned me for wondering why Kathaksung was allowed to spam. He also didn't like my pointing out his close ties to a right woos left conspiracy theorist and neonazi named Jeff Rense. Someone had to clean house in regards to these major forums. I was just the right person at the right time.

Yesterday, I made a rare visit to Carnicom's. I have said before that Day Glo has been the voice of reason at that forum. I had good reason to think this. She has consistently attacked tinfoil which makes chemtrails seem like a hoax. Her true colours though have been shown. She has never really had much to offer for chemrail insights. She has been good for critiquing zaniness while putting up predictable posts about how her area gets slammed and that this needs to stop. Now one can see that she is pushing the depopulation angle.

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Ok, let's switch gears from that concern troll to one who runs his own radio show. Patrick Timpone is the dude who recently interviewed Will Thomas, the man best known for writing about the Deep Sky hoax as if it really happened. I signed up to Timpone's website, because one had to in order to hear that [/yawn] exchange. I now get spam from him letting me know who he's gonna have on next. Surprise, surprise, say hello to neonazi and Willis Carto associate Eustace Mullins. Check out the accolades. Fat chance this "conspiro-tainment" actually helps the middle and lower classes. Google Eustace Mullins. Same as it ever was.

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