HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby Lophofo on Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:29 am

I might not be a big phish to fry. I'm just a phofo that tries to stay Lo.
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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby socrates on Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:51 pm

Lophofo wrote:Hey,

These guys want the Raytheon data. It's as simple as that. I already know that my computers were scanned when they were looking for it months ago. But, they wouldn't have found it. Do you think I don't know about encryption? What about fully encrypted hidden partitions running a different OS? I got attacked. Files were deleted...trojans were installed...data was scanned. Trails and evidence of intrusion was left. I know who did this to me. I'm no dummy. I pick up on the little details that the ordinary individual might glance over.


Hiya. Ok, now it looks like we are getting somewhere. Thanks for reminding me that it's all about the post above concerning the screenshots on the ionispheric stations. It appears to be all about the propaganda surrounding HAARP-like technology being small beans, rather than the deluxe Boston Baked version, to use an analogy.

You think I'm good at computers. Well, let me tell you something, buddy, if I'm as good at computers as you think I am, then...believe me...I know for a certainty what your skill level is regarding computers. You might be able to fool the average Joe. We both know how skilled or not skilled the other one is. Just know that I know...and that you can't fool me.


I honestly don't know how skilled you are with computers. I used to think you were very good with them. Now I think you have above average skills, but not as much as I thought previously. I'm not trying to fool you or anyone. My skills are what they are. I figured out how to use search engines. I can take screenshots. I am fluent at being a blogger whether it is bbcode or the old school html. But I definitely don't have a clue about the glossary. I pick up on the easier things like reverse-ip's. Eventually I can trial and error my way around the admin panel, things like that. You think I have more skills than what I am portraying? I don't. I don't harvest ip's, as someone at another forum wrote. I don't phish or anything like that. I don't break any laws. If I want to know the ip's of visitors, I need to be logged in and go to the who is online page. I could probably learn more about the ionispheric technology, and the things you have shared on this thread, but I'd have to devote a lot of time and study it. Are you saying that the info you posted, the data above on worldwide ionispheric stations is not available anywhere else? Do you think I am working for someone in regards to my blogging? I swear to God I'm not.

Now, maybe you didn't receive a phone call at your work from someone claiming to go up against the Israeli government, but it happened at my work. I received strange phone calls at my home as well. And, you DID ADMIT to receiving a strange phone call. When we talked, you said you got some phone call last year around Christmas time that sounded like church bells or something. It's not a coincidence that two of the scientists that have been arrested in the past month both worked for NASA GSFC at one point in their careers. They are looking to find out who spilled the Boston Baked Beans. You might think I don't have connections with people in the military or with scientists, physicists, etc. But, if you think that, you'd be wrong.


Do you actually believe that dude was on the up and up? I don't. I think he threw in that Israeli Govt. and espionage angle in order to drive a wedge between us, and it certainly worked. This forum has gone down the tubes since we started fighting, when the trust factor was devastated. I did receive one strange call. I know going by memory can cause some problems, but I think it was a message left on my machine during the drew.terry thing. It was Church music, but one I am not qualified to know exactly from which Church. I think I described it to you when we spoke on the phone the one time, and you thought it could have been Latter Day Saint music. If so, then that kind of backs up my idea that the phone call and whatever things you were going through and then what I went through after was all about driving a wedge between us. You had finally started to see how fake socrates were created. I found that link to the Texas forum with the obscure link to one of your screenshots from here. I found a post by someone using the socrates username at I think PrisonPlanet or InfoWars, one of the Alex Jones forums, and that person sounded like yourself. Now whoever these people are have been redirecting one of your websites to the Deep Sky page. I think a couple years ago I was ignored. Then when I was persistent, they went into the ridiculing mode, and then it swelled into making it seem that I am part of parcel of the Chemtrail Forum Fakes, which I swear to God I am not.That's why I made the post above about circumscribing. They knew they weren't going to be able to sign up here and stay for long, thus they went with the last strategy. They couldn't raise the noise to signal ratio here, so they did that everywhere else they could.

I also think there are different topics that get conflated. There is the extensive astroturf surrounding the idea of Jew hate and a Jewish global conspiracy to control the world. There also is Israeli espionage. I'm not going to deny that. I just don't think that Israel controls the world or the U.S. like others try to make it out to appear. I am against our country being based on a military economy, but that doesn't mean I think every person in the military is a bad guy, including intelligence. I think it is less likely that people in those situations can be trusted, but I'd never say never.

I still believe that the chemtrails are mostly to do with blocking out uv-b rays, but there is strong evidence that it can be used for other applications. Perhaps there is a stronger use for them in regards to radar and intelligence gathering than I have been portraying. I'm not trying to obfuscate anything.
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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby socrates on Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:01 pm

Lophofo wrote:I might not be a big phish to fry. I'm just a phofo that tries to stay Lo.


I doubt either one of us is in any kind of jeopardy. I think the ptb's or whatever are all about denying regular people their freedom of speech and association when it confronts their own greedy interests. They are basically cheaters, imho. I am just going to repeat yet again that I don't phish, I don't collect ip's, and I don't work for any of these people or any other similar group. I am not disinfo. This was a hobby that grew into something bigger than myself. I will give the bad guys credit. They effectively neutralised this forum.

Maybe we should focus in on the concept of how extensive HAARP-like technolgy is, and what is available in the public domain to support that thesis in comparison to the information you have posted that appears to not be available anywhere else. It also might be a good idea to explain in layman terms how such technology can be used for radar, and perhaps more importantly, intelligence gathering. I'm fairly confident I have nailed the uv-b ray mitigation angle and how chemtrails as geoengineering global warming has been a strawman. Thanks. Take it easy.
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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby socrates on Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:10 pm

I forgot to mention something else. I never got to hear the phone call from start to finish. I can only imagine how it started and progressed. I'm thinking, for example, about how this person alleging to be ex-intelligence mentioned GoDaddy. Did he bring that up first? If so, then perhaps that was strange, as I did write about GoDaddy in the astroturfing section. The thing about him saying he was up against a foreign govt., and then he said it was Israel, well, that's where we end up again with it seeming that this person wanted you to start distrusting me. I haven't just been on about chemtrails and the disinformation surrounding the topic. I took on the Jew hate at the Unofficial WRH forum. I tried to figure out the concept of internet disinfo in general. I got into who I consider are election integrity fakes. And that's a whole other can of worms. That gets to the point where one can only wonder if there is something more than grifting in the works. My days of pounding into these topics as much as I have are over. I'm not giving up. I am proud of my efforts. But I am a realist. I figure enough has been discovered, and since internet shenanigans are never ending, there is no reason to keep reinventing the wheel. The priority at this point seems to be about adding what we know up, putting it together as coherently as possible, then always being open to finding ways to get the word out.
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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby socrates on Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:08 pm

There's still some crazy hack job going on with your lophofo.com website. It's gotten much worse than redirecting to security type websites or the Will Thomas Deep Sky page. I suggest NO ONE go there. I saw one strange link in a yahoo search.
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lophofo.com/DLI_contacts.pdf.tar.gz.pgp
I searched a bit more, and there is a DLI trojan. I advise you to shut down access to lophofo.com and find some authority you can trust to investigate who is behind this.
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Re: HAARP, Atmospheric Research - The Big Players Involved

Postby socrates on Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:04 pm

Lophofo wrote:I might not be a big phish to fry. I'm just a phofo that tries to stay Lo.


It's beyond bizarre how you allow your homepage to continue to act strange. I can think of no explanation for that. It used to redirect to Will Thomas' Deep Sky hoax. I'm afraid to ever try it again. How long should it take for a big company like BlueHost to take back control of a webpage? This has been going on for months or close to that. This is ridiculous. The last time I tried it, the windows started jumping around. This whole thing reeks. I have no computer knowledge. You work in computers. Now you're bringing in the Joos crap. I'm done with the mind games. It's not my fault the LDS is thought of by most who look into it as being a cult. Now who knows if any of the HAARP information you have provided means much. Now you mention Boston Baked Beans. Is someone imagining themselves as a modern day James Bond? Or perhaps this is similar to the delusions Joseph Smith experienced back in the 19th century? Quit the mind games or take yourself and your superpower undergarments and weather war and paranoia and all that conspiracy chatter and please just stay away. I don't need you anymore for anything if it's just more of what you refer to as Japanese. You talk a lot about having evidence of things, but I no longer believe you. Not that what I think matters. I put too much time and effort into my posts at this forum to allow this convolution to continue. I am very grateful to have convinced Jeff to not run with the reverse ip story you thought was proof of something. Ha!!!!! You expect people to believe you have secured all this evidence against military-sponsored hackers, but that you can't stop them from freaking people out through the homepage? This far-fetched cloak and dagger angle is turning into a much less elaborate but equally stupid looking hoax like Deep Sky, imho. I can't believe you're buying into some Israeli connection to this forum or whatever you're doing. Some guy tells you he's ex-intelligence and he's up against the Israeli government. Do you realise how stupid this all sounds? I'm a regular person who thinks chemtrails are real. I'm now going to make a real post, something I haven't seen out of you in close to a year. Today we have chemtrailed skies in low humidity on a day when we are supposed to have mostly sunny skies. Real people can check this out. I even tracked down Minnis' words at CTC in which he gave the criteria for persistent contrails and the margin of error for the radiosonde readings. While you remain in the realm of unprovable tinfoil-tainment, I am determined to stay in the realm of reality. I'm at the end of the line with the mind games. I mean it this time.
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