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[Lophofo]

Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese...I really think so...

Kokusai-Kougyou-Kanda...Uchi-Kanda
Chiyoda-ku ?

I think I'll move to Bellevue....I'm tired of my "Name" here...and all of the "Intelligence" that's required for this job.
Perhaps one day I'll quit the habit...retire from the reefer...quit rolling many doobies, and hittin' on the bong.

It's making me kinda crazy...the paranoia settles...I start to trust Drew.Terry, then don't know if he's right.
I've made my share of mistakes...intentional or not?

You've gotta lead'm on some...to try and take the bait, before you know just what you've captured...sometimes it seems so "fake."

I'm definitely not a freeper...there's no way I am paid. My posts are way to little...I spend so little time. I couldn't be a spook, right? But, sometimes
I'm a little spooky...with what I know is going on...it's happening all around me...

Maybe I'll just relax some...and go and buy some bud. I know a little dealer...he likes to sell them dimebags...I got some extra cash now, it's only a few bucks.
But information's crucial...I think that I can make it...even if I'm impaired...my judgment isn't shady...just slowed down...

It's kind of extra cautious...you guard your words with your tongue. They say don't hate the player...you're supposed to hate the game. You think I can't "out the outties" or "in with the innies"? I can give credit where credit is due. I can read...I can study.

I can post where and on what I'm needed. Too much mystery, too little? Post about fakes...watch your back...help contribute to what you've already discovered...get some solid proof with books, documents...inside info, etc. I know how to work the net.

Too much drama and not enough posts...you want quantity in regards to what you've already outed? Say the word. I don't care about David Icke, Alex Jones...UFO's E.T.s or other kooky stuff, either. I care about the "America" that is hidden from the public. I don't want garbage sources either. You want me to post that I linked us to possible tinfoil? Eh, shit happens...and it happens for a reason.

But, you're reading way too much into what I say without even hearing my vocal intonations. You wanna talk for real? You think I have to hide behind P.M.'s? I don't. Signup for Skype...and so will I. I'll give you my number...and we can talk on the phone like adults.

Don't pretend it wouldn't be nice to have a sidekick...can I be interested in what you're in? Absolutely! Have I let you down in the number of posts I've made...and not responding to all of your discoveries...absolutely! I can understand your disappointment in my "lackadaisical" approach. But, I'm past that. Let's be serious now and get this ball rolling.

Who doesn't want to be a part of something bigger? If you wanna know my real "angle" you'll call. I'm ready...are you? They should have had us working together from the beginning.

[socrates]

Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese...I really think so...

Kokusai-Kougyou-Kanda...Uchi-Kanda
Chiyoda-ku ?

I think I'll move to Bellevue....I'm tired of my "Name" here...and all of the "Intelligence" that's required for this job.
Perhaps one day I'll quit the habit...retire from the reefer...quit rolling many doobies, and hittin' on the bong.

Mormons don't drink alcohol, coffee, or smoke. So why are you saying you like weed? You're not a practicing Mormon? Your family isn't 100% Mormon?

I think you need to check out what ex-Mormons have been writing. There is a way for you to break free of that cult.

It's making me kinda crazy...the paranoia settles...I start to trust Drew.Terry, then don't know if he's right.
I've made my share of mistakes...intentional or not?

Intentional or not? Wtf? Why you playing head games? I'm sorry I went overboard asking you to admit whether you are a spook or useful idiot. I was wrong. Am I supposed to erase what I wrote, like I never did it?

In one of your crazy pm's to me, you admitted to making it seem that I was Orwell Knew. Put yourself in my shoes. What if this was your forum, and you had made me half owner. What if I had activated someone with a troll name who told me you were a paid spook or whatever who he worked for, and then what if I then tried to delete the evidence that I did so? I guess you didn't realise that there would be a line saying that you had cleared the admin log. Anyway, wouldn't you then have trouble trusting me?

You've gotta lead'm on some...to try and take the bait, before you know just what you've captured...sometimes it seems so "fake."

There is a bit of truth to that. It's what I did with et in Arcadia Ego, Chem11, and Deborah/FootSoldier to get them to unwittingly admit they turned into debunkers.

But for the most part, I don't believe everything needs to have a cloak and dagger method.

I'm definitely not a freeper...there's no way I am paid. My posts are way [too] little...I spend so little time. I couldn't be a spook, right? But, sometimes
I'm a little spooky...with what I know is going on...it's happening all around me...

There is plenty of convolution on the internet. I covered that angle with the major chemtrail forum characters. That doesn't mean I am the ringleader or a part of it like you are implying in the private pm's. I am not into private pm's with you. They are just getting too bizarre to respond to.

Maybe I'll just relax some...and go and buy some bud. I know a little dealer...he likes to sell them dimebags...I got some extra cash now, it's only a few bucks.

Mormons don't smoke. That would be like fundamental radical terrorist muslims checking out strippers and snorting cocaine before flying planes into buildings. If Atta and those guys truly believed that the terrorist attacks would get them into heaven, then why the strip clubs and whatnot. Unless that was disinfo?

Are you denying that you are a full-blooded, practicing Mormon?

But information's crucial...I think that I can make it...even if I'm impaired...my judgment isn't shady...just slowed down...

It's kind of extra cautious...you guard your words with your tongue. They say don't hate the player...you're supposed to hate the game. You think I can't "out the outties" or "in with the innies"? I can give credit where credit is due. I can read...I can study.

I can post where and on what I'm needed. Too much mystery, too little? Post about fakes...watch your back...help contribute to what you've already discovered...get some solid proof with books, documents...inside info, etc. I know how to work the net.

Too much drama and not enough posts...you want quantity in regards to what you've already outed? Say the word. I don't care about David Icke, Alex Jones...UFO's E.T.s or other kooky stuff, either. I care about the "America" that is hidden from the public. I don't want garbage sources either. You want me to post that I linked us to possible tinfoil? Eh, shit happens...and it happens for a reason.

What was the reason? Was it a brain cramp to not make a disclaimer that it was a shady source?

I always wanted people to interact with my stuff. But the cavalry never arrived.

But, you're reading way too much into what I say without even hearing my vocal intonations. You wanna talk for real? You think I have to hide behind P.M.'s? I don't. Signup for Skype...and so will I. I'll give you my number...and we can talk on the phone like adults.

No, I don't want to talk with you. Right now, I don't want much if anything anymore to do with you. The trust and love is gone. I'm sorry for flying off the handle with my rants. But you're the one who tried to hide the evidence that you activated Drew.Terry. You gonna say my reaction wasn't logical, that you were trying to make me think the forum was hacked? We had an anonymous bumping threads a few months ago. To clear the admin logs means to me that you wanted me to think that entity or whatever found a way to activate members without either of us doing the authorizing.

Don't pretend it wouldn't be nice to have a sidekick...can I be interested in what you're in? Absolutely! Have I let you down in the number of posts I've made...and not responding to all of your discoveries...absolutely! I can understand your disappointment in my "lackadaisical" approach. But, I'm past that. Let's be serious now and get this ball rolling.

Talk is cheap.

Who doesn't want to be a part of something bigger? If you wanna know my real "angle" you'll call. I'm ready...are you? They should have had us working together from the beginning.

They? You sound like you're having a nervous breakdown or have become the anti-Mormon out for revenge against me for my posts of the last few days.

Talk is cheap. If you can't make normal posts, why not just go away? Are you trying to force me to ban you?

I was trying to in my own way apologize for the last few days. The Mormon thing would explain how you can believe in certain tinfoil ideas.

Are you a practicing Mormon? Do you think the Latter Day Saints are a cult?

So now you are saying I am this big time spook fully involved with internet convolution. Are you sure of that?

If you can't answer these questions without losing the head games like "intentional or not?" then perhaps we should just both move on.

I am exactly who I have said I am, an unemployed blogger from Massachusetts who aspired to be an amateur internet sleuth. Yeah, everyone wants to be part of something big. Perhaps that is how the Mormon cult grew in stature, not to mention the ridiculous amount of procreation going on.

I had thought you were the exception to the rule that Utah is full of mostly nutjobs.

Is the Mormon Church a cult or not? It is clear that Utah is a big checkmark for rightwingers. And here's a bit of tinfoil. The Mormons have close ties and similarities to freemasonry. Anyone who is a practicing Mormon has clearly been brainwashed and is teetering on the edge of total insanity. Utah is a guaranteed vote for the status quo of war and inequality. They are full of racists and homophobes. Too bad Mormons aren't as good deep down as the fake image they present. Thank God the word has gotten out about the sickness which is the Mormon Church. That's some crazy stuff Joseph Smith came up with. Thank God for the ex-Mormons who have escaped from the cult and worked hard with their own missions to save others who have been brainwashed and abused.

[socrates]

He sent me the following pm last night. I will add some comments in as it goes. It is from "Anonymous" because this is a copy and paste from after I deleted his username. It took a good night's sleep to come to these conclusions that follow.

I had tried to settle things down by telling him I no longer thought he was a paid fake or troll. After confirming who he is and researching his family and history, it turns out he is a full-blooded, practicing member of the Latter-Day Saint, that part of the Mormon Church which is a cult. I am sure there are normal Mormons, because one of them, Danny Ainge, runs the Boston Celtics, and he is anything but a nutjob.

While researching a bit on the cult, one thing stood out. These people are passionate brown-shirts. When the US government told them to knock it off with the polygamy, people were amazed that most of the Mormons complied. But they did that because they are very patriotic. I was thinking at that point that Lophofo was simply a victim of the cult. That to me would explain his crazy posts. Mormon's have a nutty idea that mortal men can become God. They appear to believe in many planets with many Gods. That guy Joseph Smith was absolutely nutso. It is beyond bizarre that the Mormons have prospered. The one good thing I saw with checking out search engines, is that there are a lot of ex-Mormons who speak out against the cult and try to save others from the utter insanity that is the Latter-Day Saints.

Re: I don't think you are a paid fake or a troll

Sent at: 15 Jan 2009 09:14 pm
From: Anonymous
To: socrates
No, I'm not threatening you. I don't threaten people...especially those employed by the mighty US of A? You think I really want to threaten someone who works for the Feds? Hell no!

And what I was referring in regards to hacks cracks, port scans, etc...are the attacks on my computer the past month and a half from you and your goons.

You want proof? I got logs...screenshots, data...plenty. I'm no criminal...and you got nothing on me...no hacking...nothing.

Lophofo is an expert with computers. That is the field he works in.

What I tried to figure out during the overnight is whether Lophofo is just a cult victim or if he is a member of the overall scam to make chemtrails look like a kooky hoax and subsequently that they are contrails.

This letter he wrote me was the final straw. Here he pretty much confirmed my fears, that he has been some modern form of cointelpro, an infiltrator trying to ruin things from within.

I'm not the one hacking and attacking...nor was I threatening to do so. I'm simply explaining that I know what YOU're doing.

This doesn't add up. He knows that I have done nothing of the sort.

I can settle down...or I can ACT crazy. You're obviously involved in writing my script. But, if you want no more psy-ops fine. The whole internet is rigged. It's a script. I can PLAY characters. I can be calm, be upset...be crazy...be alll that you can be...in the Army, today.

I'd prefer the settle down part. Criminal? Nah. I passed a Federal background check back in 2004, was it? yeah, I think it was then. It was required by my employer...whom I'm no longer employed with.

You want the truth? I'll give it to you. I've been working with Aubochont (sp?) after I thought you were NSA. I saw his Drew Terry post at DBS. I'm a member, there...but haven't posted.

I just googled for this mysterious Lou post about Drew Terry. Wow.

http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?p=1032627

It says it was posted two weeks ago.

Thanks Dewey_Due credit for his insight must be given to Drew Terry and his article that I found while researching the Credit Crunch and searching the Google.

What a bunch of crazy fockers to go to such trouble to make it seem I am part of their bullshit.

I've been e-mailing Lou. I've talked with starman1. Starman1 won't respond anymore. As far as the NASA / Raytheon post...you'll have to read the tail end of my HAARP thread to refresh your memory if you don't know what I'm referring to.

I HAVE your forum, Drew Terry...from Burlington, VT...who used to own a bedding store and went to the State Supreme Court over tenant problems.

This forum...I have it all. It's in multiple places. You want to fill out a DMCA on me? Go for it. I'll counter it. Then, we can go to court. Wouldn't it look good...the US of A versus XXXXXXX XXXXX?

That would blow your cover.

Ever think what I could do about editing your posts...throwing it in a database...making it say that you said something that you didn't?

Ruin your reputation, socrates, and other characters which you've built up so hard over these years. I'm simply saying that you mess with me...and you'd wish you didn't.

I am not scared of any of these people. I know exactly who Lophofo works for. It's actually not that tough to figure out. But I am now thinking that is a cover job for something insidious. This guy has put up pictures of his family on the internet. Info on his extended family detailing his lineage is out in the open. I think he messed up in that when he deleted the admin log, he didn't realize that he wouldn't be able to delete that he had deleted! He was very mad when I took away his admin/founder status. That is when the head games started to accelerate crescendoing to this bullshit of a psy-op letter. I believe we have just reeled in a dumbass professional spook who by chance has been a cult member for his entire life. This guy's lineage can be tied directly to Joseph Smith.

I'm NOT THREATENING defamation of character or anything...because what's a made up character on the net anyway? You actually going to take someone to court over ruining your username "socrates"? They'd laugh in your face. You have no registered trademark on that name.

no threats of harm to anyone in real life...no threats of hacking...or anything to put anyone in danger...for the record. It would be destroying your "character" which is fake any way. A fake character on the net...that's not illegal.

I have all of your IPs...and may's. I can show you're the same person.

He can't show squat. This drama including the name DrewTerry was a result of myself posting at Democratic Underground about the real DrewTerry having outed Steven Hertzberg at BreakForNews. For Lou to have written about Drew is no coincidence. It can't be. This shows that these cretins are tracking my every post on the internet.

When I first saw Drew.Terry posting here, I thought it was a ploy to throw me off my game at DU. I had no clue something far more sinister was up than a troll post until I noticed that Lophofo attempted to erase the fact that he had activated that username.

I had no choice at that point but to turn Lophofo back into a regular member.

And he was mad. His reaction seemed one of utter frustration, as if he had realised that he had made a big blunder. Short term he had created havoc. But long term, he had lost the ability to control this forum and move it to his domain. When the unauthorized bumping of threads occurred in October, I was under the impression that this forum was at risk. I trusted Lophofo and because I haven't any credit right now, I figured he was my best bet to move the forum. Thank God he made this blunder! Or else he would have gained complete control of this forum. I think that is why he flipped out bigtime and came up with this bullshit of me being DrewTerry. Now he is saying he has proof that I am May41970 and others? I might buy into that, if the internet wasn't his profession. When one looks at ip's for guests including my socrates2 username, they are all listed under one page, as anonymous. But one would then have to believe that I have been everyone posting as a guest. A computer guy like him would have realised this.

So all he had left after his brutal mistake was to turn to the convolution strategy. I could copy and paste all the other bizarre pm's he has sent me lately, but this one should suffice. he does make one good point. Anonymous usernames are not the be all end all. It is the messages and not the messenger that truly matters. My work here transcends who I am in real life. That is how writers do what they do. I admit I am not the greatest writer, but obviously, I am one. People can check out what I have come up with and see that my writing does add up, that I am consistent, that I do try to play fair, that I am trying to make sense in an academic way of things I have learned and experienced.

Tell me what you'd like. I'm ready to calm down and "pretend" it didn't happen. Do I want to post? Yes...I can deal with not being an admin / mod...

But, hey...let me get in on posting elsewhere or on other topics...like what I did with HAARP. I can create a new username...use proxies...Tor...whatever.

Yeah, it's no game...I was Drew.Terry...you obviously knew that...and it upset you so much. Sorry for playing psy-ops on you.

Hackers get hired all the time to work for the gov...why can't I get hired? I can instigate feelings of rage, fear, complacency, stability...in people via words. I'm a social engineer like that. I'm good with comps, Linux, IPs...hosting, etc.

I want in...bro...get me in on this somehow...for real. I don't want to be an enemy of yours. I don't want to work with Lou or starman1.

YOU are da man! I want to work with you...taking on topics you uncover...helping you out. Playing different characters, reporting IPs...calling people out, exploring political topics...helping out the nation...helping our gov. from these "threats".

That last part, can you see how he has been influenced by the Mormon cult?

What does religion have to do with anything, any way? What if I'm agnostic?
I don't go around attacking people who are Jews...why would you attack someone who is Mormon?

Mormons are some of the smartest people I know. BTW, it's LDS as in Latter-Day Saint...Mormon is what the non-Mormons call them. And it's often used as a derogative term.

You hate the people who attack religion. So, out of respect...don't attack mine. I won't denounce my faith or family...never. I have integrity.

It doesn't matter if I write about the LDS as being an evil cult. Such a truth transcends me. Anyone can research into this Joseph Smith bullshit along with all the other things affiliated with that cult and see that it is insane.

Can I play a character that isn't Mormon? Sure...anything's possible on "The Net" right?
Regardless of who you work for or what you do or who pays your bills...or whether you are all that you say you are...just, let me in on it...please.

Can't you see that I want in on this drama? That's why I'm causing it...I want to be part of it. I evidently hit a nerve with the Drew.Terry thing, my apologies to you for that.

You've accomplished a lot...and I'm not looking to take anything away from you in that regards. I would just like to be a part of it going forward. I want in...let me in, please. And then I won't deal with Lou or starman1 or anyone else.

But, I'll need a new name...a new character...kind of like "witness protection program" for people on the net. I mean a new name on the net of course.

peace out bro...no more lengthy e-mails...no more games...no more pretending to be crazy from me. I can come out and admit that I did link to some "kooky" stuff and associated your board with it. I'm sorry. I'll apologize publicly on the net also.

Sound good? Hit me back...but, I was serious about the Skype phone thing. It used to be common for people to meet off the net...now you gotta all be concerned if it's a setup because of all those damn pedophiles out there who are trying to screw our children over!

This guy is the scum of the earth. Before this email, I was feeling some pity for him. But after reading it, then sleeping on it, and now finding that Lou post on Drew Terry, it is clear as day that this nobody from Massachusetts has been getting played by a network of paid fakes. If my amateur internet sleuthing hadn't uncovered so much, hadn't documented and proven so much, I don't believe these jackasses would have kept hounding me.

Lophofo is the only one whose real name I have figured out. I know who he works for and can prove it. I know these warped minds are following my posts. My advice to them as always is to back off. Every time they troll me, it gets worse for themselves. The truth transcends who I am. I am into the truth, not convolution. This Lophofo episode is further proof that there is an insidious network perverting the internet.

[Lophofo]

All I ever did was try to be your friend, socrates, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls.

[socrates]

All I ever did was try to be your friend, socrates, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls.

You say I have a lot of growing up to do, but then you make a homophobic comment. I admit I took a look into the religion. I was trying to figure out why you stabbed me in the back by signing up as drew.terry and then attempted to scrub all signs that it was you. Thankfully your action was preserved in the admin section, otherwise I probably never would have known you were conducting some kind of test on me. I put my heart and soul into figuring out chemtrails and the disinfo surrounding them, and there is zero indication that I am part of it. My blogging has been very organic. Sure, I have made human errors. Sure, I could have been much more mature at times. But now after a lot has come out in the wash, I sincerely believe folks can empathise with any undue reactions I had.

I just wanted to understand why you did the things you did. Now I am beyond this being about your religion, and I simply find it fascinating how the LDS operates and why so many people buy into its ideas. And certainly people are buying into it as they continue to pay the church tithes and go on missionary campaigns.

I'm not on any high horse. I put a lot of time and effort in being a blogger, and the content I came up with now transcends who I am as an individual. I'm not into mind games. I guess the positive out of this is you no longer are thinking I am part of them. Yes, there is a them. Trolls in the basement do not come up with elaborate scams like fake socrates or making it seem we are all the same person or even that crazy phone call you or the co-hort took from someone purporting to be ex-intelligence. I doubt run of the mill trolls have easy access to talking like they are an ex-spy. I do see that you still don't have control back for lophofo.com. That I find hard to believe. Your background is in computers. You have your own websites. And you are still unable to gain back control of your places? Donotchemtrail.com, a domain you set up with a copy of this place from last year, is still redirecting to Will Thomas' page on the Deep Sky hoax. And you expect folks to believe you aren't involved with the convolution. It sounds like a lot of truthiness when you say those places have been hacked. Sorry, but to me it seems like a similar stunt from when you became drew.terry. Since you created the fake drew.terry username to "test" me or whatever, I think this new thing could be just more fun and games from yourself. Then it makes me wonder if you truly received the phone call unsolicited. This is beyond being friends or getting into some sort of flame festival. It should be about getting as close to the truth as possible.

[Lophofo]

Socrates,

You claim to be just some forty something internet sleuth who doesn't know that much about computers or science. You also claim that I am some expert on computers.

Lophofo is an expert with computers. That is the field he works in.

What I tried to figure out during the overnight is whether Lophofo is just a cult victim or if he is a member of the overall scam to make chemtrails look like a kooky hoax and subsequently that they are contrails.

This letter he wrote me was the final straw. Here he pretty much confirmed my fears, that he has been some modern form of cointelpro, an infiltrator trying to ruin things from within.

So, how is anyone to know whether I am good at computers or not if you're not that good yourself? I could be just barely better than you. But, from your perspective (from someone who knows so little about computers) I could appear [to you] that I am some security expert. There are many stay-at-home moms who blog on the internet. Almost anyone can own/create a website these days. Perhaps to the Big Dogs, though, I'm a joke.

Let's hear your take on it, although your opinion might not carry that much weight since you admit to not knowing computers well. How good at computers am I? What makes me, Lophofo, "an expert at computers"? Am I good enough to work at the NSA? Will I be good enough by 2013 when they come here (Utah)? Please enlighten us.

[socrates]

Socrates,

You claim to be just some forty something internet sleuth who doesn't know that much about computers or science. You also claim that I am some expert on computers.

Lophofo is an expert with computers. That is the field he works in.

What I tried to figure out during the overnight is whether Lophofo is just a cult victim or if he is a member of the overall scam to make chemtrails look like a kooky hoax and subsequently that they are contrails.

This letter he wrote me was the final straw. Here he pretty much confirmed my fears, that he has been some modern form of cointelpro, an infiltrator trying to ruin things from within.

I don't remember writing that, but I'm not gonna deny it. It's probably right above. That was a stupid thing I wrote. I should have said that's how it appears to me, but that I have no proof.

I don't want to get into your specific personal information. But I am under the impression that you have access to people who should be able to help you regain control over your domains. That your websites are still redirecting, one to security websites and the other to a Will Thomas page on Deep Sky, doesn't sit well with me.

I'm no expert on computers. I can see my way around the net in regards to researching. But anything other than that, I haven't a clue. I guess I would like to clarify my saying you're an expert with computers. It appears to be your field, and what you studied. How come you can't get control back of your domains? The hosting company is saying there's nothing that can be done? This baffles me, such as the phone call did and still does. The only current I can get a grasp of is that these things are related to the portrayal of chemtrails on the internet.

So, how is anyone to know whether I am good at computers or not if you're not that good yourself? I could be just barely better than you. But, from your perspective (from someone who knows so little about computers) I could appear [to you] that I am some security expert. There are many stay-at-home moms who blog on the internet. Almost anyone can own/create a website these days. Perhaps to the Big Dogs, though, I'm a joke.

I hope I clarified my perspective in the last paragraph. I admit I can write some stupid stuff. I admit to having made mistakes in regards to human relations. Maybe it's too late to reach common ground again. I truly do not understand how those websites can still be redirecting. That doesn't add up for me.

Let's hear your take on it, although your opinion might not carry that much weight since you admit to not knowing computers well. How good at computers am I? What makes me, Lophofo, "an expert at computers"? Am I good enough to work at the NSA? Will I be good enough by 2013 when they come here (Utah)? Please enlighten us.

Again, it's up to you whether you want to disclose your resume concerning computer science and the industry. You make a logical case that since I am not an expert or even close, that I have no credentials to make any claims about your expertise in the field. I was hoping you'd give your take on the phone call and other things, but it looks like we are at a standstill in not even trusting one another. The copy you made of this website is redirecting to a Will Thomas page on a hoax that was covered in this forum. Some of the people I have identifed as chemtrail forum fakes were directly involved with that thing. I'm not sure what else to say. This has gotten very awkward. Your website which is a copy of this place from last year is redirecting to a page I sincerely believe covers a stale hoax, one which was used to help establish Chemtrail Central and its offshoots. That strange dude Halva even showed up on the scene after he claims he read about Thomas' story. My cybersleuthing days are now in the rear view window. I did the best I could, nonwithstanding those human errors here and there with social skills. I am powerless to figure out why that page is redirecting. I am powerless to get anymore to the bottom of what is going on without some kind of break. Hopefully you are legit and will figure out these things. You are the source of the phone call and the websites redirecting. I'm not saying you are part and parcel of that but that you are the one who experienced these things in the first person. I can only go by what you shared with me. I tried to share that with the readers, because I felt it would look pretty shady to leave things hanging the way they were. That's why I messed up with the former member. I felt the need to explain why I trusted him so much. Now I realise it is pointless to discuss him, as he continues to read here and has even been posting things about me elsewhere. With him, and with yourself if you like, I am willing to say it has been wrapped up the most it could be and then let it go. Hey, maybe you are a victim just like me, just like you have claimed, and will come through in the clutch and solve these mysteries.

[Lophofo]

Hey,

I've talked with some of my associates recently. And, I am getting closer to solving this. However, this one is really throwing me for a loop. I am narrowing it down, though. Here's what I have so far: Oh, and on a sidenote, I didn't ban you from my website. I don't know why you were getting the Sabre errors.

When I visit http://lophofo.com/index.php, I actually get my website. And, I can refresh the page and it stays the same. This is the page that should always display.
The problem only happens if people type in the website name without the index.php on the end.

One of my associates suggested using curl to try and troubleshoot. So, I did that. Here are the results of several curls:

~$ curl http://lophofo.com/index.php
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Ambiguity Encrypted = ? :: Eschew obfuscation</title>
</head>
<body>
<br />
<h2>Thought of the 'Weak':</h2> "And persuaded that Caerus has a bad influence in the matter of thefts, humans spent huge resources and efforts<br />
in perfecting locks and keys and passwords and every kind of safety measures, with the help of which they hope to outwit Opportunity.<br />
But as they lock some doors they inevitably leave others open."<br />
</h2>

<br />
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<br />
<h2>We cater to certain individuals that may or may not be fighting for Liberty!</h2>
<h2>Do you have the courage to Stand Up and Speak Out?</h2>
<h2>Do you seek Freedom from Oppression?</h2>
<h2>Join the <strong>Lone Wolves</strong> today!!!</h2>
<br />
<center><h2>Everyday People Making a Difference</h2><br /><img src="http://lophofo.com/red_badge_of_courage.png" /></center>
<br />
<font color="#FFFFFF">
$13k7*Q4
</font>
<p>
I am planning on releasing some new "material" in the new "Members Only" section
found here:

<h2>New <a href="http://lophofo.com/members">"Members Only"</a> area</h2>

If you want to become a member, you already know how to contact me.</p>
<br />
<p>
<h3>It's that time again! Our annual trip to the HAARP facility in Gakona, AK is near approaching.</h3></p>
<p>
I have created a <a href="http://lophofo.com/c0ntact/f0rm.html">contact form</a> that you can fill out to let me know of your interest in attending.
Membership Dues have already been collected and will be used for this year's trip. However, we can always<br>
use more money for extra toilet paper, early morning snacks, gas, etc.
</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://lophofo.com/trip/">pictures</a> of a different trip. A great and tiresome time was had by all...especially by Jim.</p>
<img src="http://lophofo.com/images/HAARP_Chemtrails.jpg" alt="HAARP + Chemtrails">
<p>
</p>
</body>
</html>

And here are some curls when not entering the index.php on the end:

~$ curl http://lophofo.com
<html><head><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://www.nsa.gov/"></head><body></body></html>

~$ curl http://lophofo.com
<html><head><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://www.breakingpointsystems.com/community/blog/cisco-becomes-the-weakest-link-in-national-infrastructure-security"></head><body></body></html>

~$ curl http://lophofo.com
<html><head><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://www.webmaster.al/members/l0whacker-.html"></head><body></body></html>

Now, I can tell that it's using a meta refresh tag. However, as you can see by the curl of my index.php file that there is no such tag. And, the other thing that I don't understand is how it can be different ones each time. There's got to be something on the server that's causing these to redirect. I'll just have to look more thoroughly through the thousands of files I have to find out what's going on.

We use BIND for DNS. So, that pretty much helps eliminate any MitM attacks. I've also checked my DNS records as shown here:

www.lophofo.com DNS records

You can see that I don't have multiple "A records" and that my www CNAME points right back to lophofo.com. I don't have multiple name servers. So, this isn't a DNS issue. It's got to be something on the server.

I'm not any expert yet. I deal with things every day that still confound me. Yet, I will admit that I do have a specific set of knowledge which I've acquired that I use every day in my job. And, it is true that the ordinary every day person wouldn't have acquired this same knowledge.

I'm sure I will find the answer soon...just have to search harder.

[socrates]

That's the kind of stuff I have no clue about. It almost feels like another test. I'm done with being tested. I don't want to be Charlie Brown getting faked out with the football more than a few times. What I lack in computer skills, I try to compensate with effort. One thing that kind of made me look like a chump was your use of the reverse ip's. But I do remember finding one link in which it was mentioned as an application. My common sense tells me that a program could easily reverse the ip's. Though, I believe most of the time the reverse ip's will be absolutely meaningless. My point is, throwing stuff against the wall and hoping some of it sticks is not the way to go.

Please forgive me for thinking you're not gonna come up with anything. I'm content to have been able to show what you put me through. I understand exactly what I've been put through and why and not just concerning yourself. I have explained it to the best of my abilities, and things should be fairly clear at this point for the readers. I have proven that chemtrails are real. I have proven that there is a chemtrail disinformation network including crazy believers, closed-minded debunkers, and debunkers in chemmie clothes. I also came up with great stuff concerning election integrity fakes. My chin is held up high. I deserve to be on a high horse, to be blunt. I was uniquely qualified to do what I did, seeing that I have had academic training in researching. If you want to hop on back in here, fine. I'm happy you didn't ban me from your place, although I probably won't try to post there again. I don't like making posts and getting no response. I want to deal with content but am done dealing with trying to figure out personalities and motives. That's why I refer to this place as a blog in the form of a forum. That way, if it appears that I am simply posting with no expectations of human interaction, then fine.

I do appreciate you gave a mea culpa at the top of this thread. It was nice of you to admit some of your mistakes. Your silence, however, in regards to the phone call thread, and with other stuff, for example with my most recent finds on Minnis, is disconcerting. My expectations for yourself are now at a minimum. I'm not totally shutting the door, but I am ready to move on. By the way, that phone call thread has gotten a lot of page views. Thus, it is apparent that there has been interest from the good lurkers to also find some closure with all this drama. I'll say it one last time. I have nothing to do with any of these people. I first took an interest in chemtrails around 2002. I put it on the back burner as I was off the net for around three years. Then in 2005-06 I started to get into the net. I posted at Huffington. I noticed what are referred to as freeper trolls. Somehow I found Fintan Dunne, and on the surface he made a lot of sense with his talk of internet fakes. But when it turned out he was a fake, I could start to see layers upon layers of manufactured internet zeitgeist. Then the word got out about netvocates and Kos having ties to the CIA.

I decided to go to CTC in the middle of 2006. I immediately noticed a lot of fish products. I went through their archives. I got invited to Gastro. Ok, I'm not gonna reinvent that specific wheel. Anyway, we met there. You were the only one who was interacting with my content. For all my skills, at the time, I was still pretty much a newbie with chemtrails. It took me a good chunk of time to put two and two together. I feel I have done that. I am confident that the content I have come up with transcends who I am as an individual.

While my expectations of yourself are at a very low level, the door is still ajar. There is tons of content on this forum that has never been touched on by anyone. I am especially proud to have found out that Steadham knew exactly that Canex and Minnis are one and the same, and that he decided to scrub his acknowledgement of that awareness. I took a screenshot from the wayback machine proving that Steadham knew they were the same person. I found out that Steadham was working for NASA. Quadruple hmmm time. Thus, when Minnis claimed he had never heard of Steadham, when it is clear that he lied as Canex saying it was only a hobby of his to post on chemtrail boards to set believers straight or to put a stop to unfounded alarm, that to me is further proof that chemtrails are real. It is circumstantial evidence. But if one gets enough of that sort of evidence, it can be enough to convict someone in a court room. Ok, obviously I am teetering on being in the ramble zone.

That phone call was fried. No doubt. And it definitely was the pinnacle of a convoluted cybersmear script created specifically for me. I'm not trying to milk anything for attention. I am not disinfo. My story is true, and I believe my extensive efforts to explain what I've been through shows that I have made a good faith effort to see chemtrails as a topic to the end. The chemtrails being placed in the troposphere are clearly being spread to attenuate the harmful effects of solar radiation.

There could be a geoengineering aspect to them, but those fake clouds would have to be produced much higher up into the stratosphere. My goals have been two-fold. To figure out chemtrails and the script put in place to obfuscate their true nature. Since I was the only one doing this, I think the script was put in place to muddy the waters and to deter any others from joining the cause. I'm not trying to be on a high horse. But on the other hand, if I don't hold my chin up, if I don't stand up for all that I have tried to do, then in a way I will have been on an egotistical high horse. The content transcends who I am. The_last_name_left has come up with a good analogy for the script of ourselves being the same deranged troll in the basement or disinfo or whatnot. He says they are playing the man, not the ball. The ball represents the content. Bad people are afraid of the content.