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Meteor Fireballs, Comets and strange accidents....


Meteor Fireballs, Comets and strange accidents....

Unread postby Uri » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:14 pm

The intitial mysterious event in January of 2009:

A lot of weird things then followed, such as:

Two satelites collided - anybody who knows how they are launched and move in orbit know how unlikely such an event is.


Two nuclear-powered submarines collided - a french and a british one collided in the Atantic this month. :shock:


But the biggest surprise must be the surrounding anomalies of meteorlightings accompaning comet Lulin which has only been discovered in 2007 and which is about to arrive on the 24th of february.


Comets have been regarded as bad omens since the very early days of human memory.

This Lulin Comet also seems to carry a lot of stuff with it:


....causing Meteor Fireballs such as the one over Sweden in the youtube video above...and here:


Recent reports of these Meteor Fireballs raining down on Planet Earth have come from

Central Texas, Kentucky, Canada and Italy:

Mystery fireball streaks across Texas sky

1 day ago

DALLAS (AP) — What looked like a fireball streaked across the Texas sky on Sunday morning, leading many people to call authorities to report seeing falling debris.

"We don't know what it was," said Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Roland Herwig.

The Williamson County Sheriff's Office used a helicopter to search after callers said they thought they saw a plane crashing, a spokesman said.

"We don't doubt what people saw" but authorities found nothing, said spokesman John Foster.

The U.S. Strategic Command said there was no connection to the sightings over Texas and Tuesday's collision of satellites from the U.S. and Russia.

"There is no correlation between the debris from that collision and those reports of re-entry," said Maj. Regina Winchester, with STRATCOM.

The FAA notified pilots on Saturday to be aware of possible space debris after a collision Tuesday between U.S. and Russian communication satellites. The chief of Russia's Mission Control says clouds of debris from the collision will circle Earth for thousands of years and threaten numerous satellites.


Loud Boom Rocks Southern Kentucky
Feb 13, 2009

27 NEWSFIRST started receiving phone calls tonight telling us a loud boom, or series of booms were heard this evening in Southern Kentucky.

So we called emergency officals, to find out what is going on.

Brian Reams of the Laurel county EMS tells us they've had calls from Jackson to London, about a loud boom.

He says there are no reports of any injuries or damage.

In the last little bit, Reams says he's been told by the state police in London that according to the FAA, the boom is from falling debris, coming from two satellites that collided in space.

The debris re-entering the atmosphere caused the loud boom, and then burned up before hitting earth.

Reams says it could have covered a 500 mile area.


Another meteor lights up the sky

A surprise in the sky tonight for people in areas surrounding Edmonton.

Listener John Visscher tells iNews880 he was heading north on the Manning Freeway near Gibbons at about 10 p.m. when he caught quite the sight - what looked like a meteor flashing across the sky. Visscher says he knew what it was because he saw the one that lit up our sky last year. But this time he says the light was not as bright and the flash much more brief - but exciting nonetheless.

On November 20th last year what some called a "fireball" flew across Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Listeners from Redwater to Leduc reported seeing the sky light up tonight.


Ferruccio Zanotti of Ferrara, Italy, recorded that same fireball and two others. Italian scientists are plotting the trajectory of the brightest fireball to estimate where it might have hit the ground; a meteorite hunt will soon be underway.

Although it is tempting to attribute the Kentucky and Italian fireballs to debris from the Feb. 10th collision of the Iridium 33 and Kosmos 2251 satellites, they seem to be meteoroids, not manmade objects.

Are we experiencing a "fireball shower?" Not necessarily. Meteoroids hit Earth every day. The daily fireballs they produce, however, are seldom reported: 70% streak over uninhabited ocean; half appear in glaring daylight; many are missed because people are asleep, at work, or not looking up. This current spate of fireballs could simply be a few ordinary, random meteoroids that have attracted extraordinary attention because of the recent satellite collision. The jury is still out.

Stay tuned for updates.


This mysterious new Comet Lulin was reported by NASA on 4th of february 2009:

“Green Comet Approaches Earth”

Lulin's green color comes from the gases that make up its Jupiter-sized atmosphere. Jets spewing from the comet's nucleus contain cyanogen (CN: a poisonous gas found in many comets) and diatomic carbon (C2). Both substances glow green when illuminated by sunlight in the near-vacuum of space”.


It seems that not just the pieces of the "Leonid space debris field" are being pushed into our Planet, but that pieces of this new Green Comet are hitting us also, as eye witness reports mention green light phenomena:

Location: near Mt. Vernon, Kentucky

Connie Thompson: "Just to give you an update on the green light in the sky last night shortly after 10:00 I was driving home along US150 E just out of Mt. Vernon (in Rockcastle County), when the world appeared to explode - in green. For 2-3 seconds the entire night sky was lit up with a strange green light. My first thought was any minute now, I'll see a mushroom cloud, but then I thought that is ridiculous. I kept telling my self that it was just lightening, but I have never seen green lightening. I didn't feel the earth shake, however that just happened to be the song playing on the radio at the time (haha). Please do keep us informed about what caused this strange event. "

Location: Morehead State University, Morehead, Kentucky

Daniel Graves, a space science major at MSU: "I was in Morehead at the time of the fireball, we were actually making observations of a distant AGN with our 21m radio telescope, and I had just stepped outside to check on cloud cover in the direction we were observing; clouds can attenuate the radio signal slightly, so we have to know where it is and compensate for it. When I saw the fireball I instantly assumed that it was debris. I've seen other satellite debris before (last years ASAT test in February). The coloring and sound matched nearly dead on. The fireball took about 7 seconds to cross the sky, rather slow compared to other things I've seen. It was definitely ablating material; it looked like a burning bright-white magnesium filament."

Location: Lexington, Kentucky

Bill Meck, WLEX-TV Chief Meteorologist: "About 10:00 est Friday night we began to receive several calls from people throughout central and eastern Kentucky of a loud boom which was strong enough to shake houses over an area about 30 miles wide centered near London Kentucky. What appeared to be either a fireball or a piece of satellite debris was seen as a blue/green streak across the sky from as far north as Paris and Lexington Kentucky…about 70 miles from London. An Emergency Manager in the area said the FAA confirmed it was satellite debris…but would like to have better confirmation. The reports also say it was on a more vertical trajectory compared to the normal 'shooting star.'"


From Matthew Genge:

Hoyle and Wickramasinghe suggest that carbonaceous cometary particles with masses of 4x10^-15 g that are captured by the Earth could provide a flux of biomolecule-bearing particles at the Earth's surface of 10^25 particle per year. This assumes that the entire 40,000 t of the extraterrestrial mass flux is dominated by these sub-micron particles. Measurements of the mass distribution of micrometeoroids from microcraters on the LDEF experiment, however, suggest a maximum in the distribution at ~10^-5 g (~100 mm dust particle; Love and Brownlee, 1993 Science) and are consistent with the mass distribution of cometary meteoroid streams and sporadics described by Hughes (1989) NATO ASI. The mass of particles smaller than 4x10^-15 g entering the atmosphere suggested by these mass distributions is ~4 t or 10^21 particles a significant proportion of which, but not all, will be carbonaceous. Assuming there is no screening affect due to entry heating above 150C (even though the effective thermal emissivity of these 10 nm particles will fall well below that of black bodies) the abundance of particles is therefore very similar to the number of aerosol particles that Hoyle and Wickramasinghe suggest are produced by humans during a pandemic. The only difference is of course that the cometary particles fall all over the globe whereas those of human origin increase with population density enhancing the possibility of transmission.


Response to Matthew Genge From Sir Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe

M.T. Genge's attempt to ridicule the possibility of cometary biomolecules influencing humans at the Earth's surface is regrettably flawed. The 40,000 tonnes of cometary debris reaching the Earth will not all be in the form of microgramme sized siliceous grains of the type considered by Genge. A fraction would inevitably be comprised of cometary organic particles that form part of the volatile outgassing of a comet. With an average mass per particle of some 4x10^-15 g, appropriate for small bacteria, the total number of bacterial/viral sized particles entering the Earth annually will be in excess of 10^25 . It should be noted that these particles are of such sizes that they would not be destructively heated whilst being stopped in the stratosphere. Thus some 10^25 or more bacterial/viral particles would be available annually for descent through the troposphere to serve as the nuclei of raindrops, and thence to fall to ground level. In a typical influenza pandemic with 10^9 people shedding some 10^11 viral particles each throughout an year, the total number of viruses exuded by humans will be 10^20 - several orders of magnitude less than the number of viral/bacterial particles from comets reaching the surface of the Earth. "


"In her book on the 1918 influenza Gina Kolata also calls attention to the often repeated phenomenon of how epidemics can move quickly through a country, "hopscotching over some towns while felling others." She reports that "After an influenza pandemic of 1789, a young American doctor named Robert Johnson puzzled over how the infection could spread so far and wide, and so quickly"

Johnson discussed the rapid outbreaks in Great Britain and on ships at sea. Kolata reports that the 1918 "flu's mortality rates peaked in Boston and Bombay in the same week. But New York, just a few hours from Boston, had its peak three weeks later" Kolata reports that Johnson finally decided that "influenza must arise from some sort of changes in the atmosphere (aerobiology) but that, once it got started, it could spread from person to person"

This NASA news item, All the World's a Stage...for Dust, published on June 26, 2001, may have a bearing on Johnson's quandry.

The rapid 1918 U.S. coverage may be explainable by dust storm delivery. See: NASA's The Pacific Dust Express. This possibility is touched on in more detail in the Global Developments: Spring-Summer 2001 section of this article. Johnson's atmospheric change idea may have contributed to the "American suggestion" about an extraterrestrial source for influenza, to which Barber refers.

In 1907 S. Arrhenius, Scientific American 96:196, argued for direct propagation of life between planets by microbes hurled into near-planet space by storms, then propelled by radiation pressure.”


Re: Meteor Fireballs, Comets and strange accidents....

Unread postby socrates » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:08 pm

Hi Uri,

Thanks for joining. Welcome to the forum. :)

I fixed your links.

There is a glitch with the urls. Uhm, the way around this is two choices.

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I also need to ask free forums to check on our post counts. Sorry if you stay stuck on #1 for a while. For now, folks can go to our profiles to find all the posts.

Thankfully those comets burn up for the most part before hitting Earth. We really are a fragile planet. Hopefully things are gonna change for the better so it can heal.

I believe there is always hope.
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Re: Meteor Fireballs, Comets and strange accidents....

Unread postby Uri » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:24 pm

Thanks for fixing the links, I was just about to do that as well....and thanks for the welcome :P

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