I can't speak for anyone else, but I feel that anyone who believes they can become a God is part of a cult. I don't see how there can be any other explanation. How is the Church of Latter Day Saints not a cult? I don't feel malice about this. I feel pity. I also feel let down. I got an enormous amount of stuff piled on me, and this phone call thing was the final straw. It was the one in which I started thinking what the fock is going on here? Why am I attacked so much? Certainly these are not trolls in the basement going after me. But even worse than the attacks has been the lack of other good people watching my back. The dark side cannot touch humanity, if we don't let them. I feel pity for anyone who is a member of a cult. I truly do. But I cannot forgive this person for hanging me out to dry. He dumped all this stuff on me and has explained none of it publically. What I do suggest for this person if he reads this is to contact ex-Mormons who have been deprogrammed and find a way to save his family. There must be a way to put a stop to anyone believing in Joseph Smith as being anything other than a con artist. I'm not trying to embarrass anyone or make them feel bad. This is serious business. I do not believe this person is any form of paid disinfo. I think he is confused and doesn't know how to correct the situation. I wish him the best, and hopefully he doesn't take down those clips so folks will always be able to see what I have been on about with this thread. I actually forgive him for making me look bad. If he would like to return and help us all figure this out better, the door is open. The paid disinfo realise that I have won, and they have lost. This forum has survived and has provided great truths about internet disinformation, cyberstalking, and yes, chemtrails. The fake clouds we see are being dispersed mainly to block out uv-b radiation due to extensive holes in the protective ozone cover. I now believe these same buggers are geoengineering further above into the stratosphere. But those aren't chemtrails. Those can't even be seen. I don't have proof that geoengineering has been going on way above, but my gut tells me it is going on.
I don't remember everything that took place. I can only go mostly by memory. I do know that Lophofo "tested" me. I will put up some of his explanations. I won't make a huge data dump. I just want to put a bit more on the table, and with that put this thing to rest. To Lophofo, I am not the enemy. I now realise you might as well be from a far away foreign culture. The Latter Day Saints, in a secular way, like with Marie Osmond and Danny Ainge, I can relate to. True believers in that stuff, no, it doesn't pass any kind of reality test. I am a nobody from Massachusetts like I have always claimed. I did a darn good job with what I did. If I hadn't, I would not have gotten the kitchen sink thrown at me.
I am looking through my old emails. I received the first phone call clip on January 18th, 2009. I didn't have a clue, and with all that "testing" going on, I wasn't about to open up the attachment, although obviously I eventually did to figure out what he was on about. We even ended up on the phone for a couple hours and hammered stuff out. At that point I did read the transcript he sent me with the clip. Other than that and the clip attachment, there was no explanation. It's actually a long story. I ended up interacting with a co-worker of his. I came to figure out to an extent what this phone call thing was all about. It was meant to divide myself and Lophofo and to scare him away fro helping keep this forum alive. The irony is it was unnecessary. There are enough differences between us that there will always be a divide anyway.
You know what they do is, they, and you probably already know this, they look for a certain, as you said, an algorithm that's going to reflect letters or words. And then what happens is, their resources get alerted, and they get directed to that almost instantaneously. Um, and, and then, uh, OK...then, there's, there's going to obviously be a software decision that will be made in milliseconds, microseconds, picoseconds, whatever...
The thing is, Lophofo let his imagination run away with certain things. Weather wars in Texas. Reverse ip's. The reverse ip thing he might be onto something. But one of them was a yahoo ip that reversed became a DoD domain. That's called a coincidence.
I will basically just copy and paste the main post he wrote me explaining why he wasn't sure if I was legit, why he was starting to wonder if I was part of "Aubuchont's" racket. You see, "Aubuchont" has zero credibility. That's why he deleted all of his posts at Chemtrail Central. That's why he has cyberstalked me for a couple years. "Lou" never expected me to uncover and prove this. But I did. So what do low life disinfo workers do when they have lost the hearts and minds of the good readers? They go with the "nuclear" option. They strive to drag their opponent, in this case myself, into the murky realm of zero credibility that they reside in. Lou doesn't want the chemtrailing to stop. No true chemmie would have ever written what he did at BradBlog. He spoke of chemtrail conspiracy bullshite. He referred to me as one of the chemtrail believers. Once I had fully exposed him as being a fraud, his only option left was to cyberstalk and smear to an outrageous degree. Do I believe "Lou" was behind or associated with those behind the phone call? Who else would be? Heck yeah, I think he was involved with this.
This was how Lophofo explained why he started to be confused about whether I was part of Lou's internet scheming. It was written on January 27th, 2009.
[quote="Lophofo"]the similarities and tactics of a troll
Subject: Re: socrates / Lou replies
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:12 IST
He is very good at character assignation, taking what people say and
focusing in on a very narrow part of it and concentrating on twisting it
to portray his attacking views, I have disproved his clumsy attempts at
saying that I am other people such as the poster 'Stitcherman' at CTC so
many times that I have lost count but yet he still keeps making post in
which he claims that I am other people, I believe that he is quite
Ok, socrates. Now, at DBS, all of this stuff is coming up again about
Stitcherman. And, he's using the words character assassination again.
back to the email...
Thanks for the email address, I very much dislike using the PM's at DBS,
I don't trust that it's secure from prying eyes there.
Good to hear from you, hope your enjoying all that snow your getting.
Subject: Re: Re: socrates / Lou replies
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:08:26 IST
[quote="Lou"]There is really no way to tell for sure but I believe that 'socrates' has
shown up in the Current Events section of DBS as the SOCKPUPPET
"Ttowntom", after being the target of 'socrates' constant attacks I'm
familiar with every facet of his writing styles and I knew this
"Ttowntom" was just another one of 'socrates' cartoon characters almost
Check it out if you want a laugh, he might as well leave a calling card as
Total Posts 15
Post # 28 is where he starts his BS with me.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=74973&page=3
Like "may41970" has done several times in the past, this new identity
"Ttowntom" criticizes my language in the post, this is typical 'socrates'
for sure, I'm 99.999 % sure of it., want do you think?
There's Lou using the word cartoon character again.
back to the email...
...Tiff's attorney, her attorney is Guido Banano who happens to be
family, her uncle, 'socrates' has pissed off the wrong people, you don't
**** off anyone in New York / New Jersey named Banano, sooner or later
that will catch up to you BIG TIME one way or another.
I did a search on Google for "Guido Banano" and it came up with two results.
One of them says =CARTOON NAZI=: Fuckin’ Europeans Never Learn
and the other one is out of the netherlands.
So, more cartoon character names...and an interesting tie to the
Netherlands, where I said I had gone.
Now, you have a signature which talks about nobody...I mean nobody pulls
the wool over the eyes of a Gambini.
I found this online regarding the family name Gambini:
Where did the Italian Gambini family come from?
From the historical and fascinating Italian region of Venice emerged a
multitude of noble families, including the distinguished Gambini family.
Subject: Re: Re: Re: socrates / Lou replies
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:24:07 IST
I find it odd to say the least that Jay Reynolds, who was a real pain in
everyone's arse and was a prolific poster in the DBS Science In The News
section of that forum regarding Chemtrail's, has just gone missing and has
barely been heard from in months , something that oddly coincides with
'socrates' being shunned at DBS posting as "Jeff Reynolds", it's only my
gut feeling talking here but I have suspected for some time that Jay
Reynolds and 'socrates' are one and the same people, if they are not then
they are working together towards the same goal of discrediting anyone who
appears to be a major player in the Chemtrail issue and those who make
post that get to close to the truth .
Jay Reynolds has long time ties to the oil industry, having gone to work
for I believe the "HESS OIL Co." as soon as he graduated from the Texas,
A&M Maritime Academy in the mid 70's, I know that he also did some work
for a company that tested listening equipment for the Navy / DoD, this
along does not mean much but given his long time anti-chemtrail stance and
near rabid debunking efforts of same I've come to believe that Jay
Reynolds has no doubt been in the employ of some Government agency for a
Now, Lou had talked about the Navy...and Jay (whom he believes you to be
as well) having worked with the Navy / DoD.
Now, I'm getting hit by Halliburton...which traces back to Verisign out of
Dulles, VA...which traces back to the DoD in Columbus Ohio on Broad St.
Amd you are saying that you sent in a request to the Navy about Lou. So,
you're both saying each other was in the Navy.
back to the email...
Ok, I guess that's enough of my rant, sorry, I kind of got off track but
the crap at CTC really got to me, still gets to me, I'm really angry at
'starman 1' and Thermit for letting the site got to HELL and get overrun
by Debunkers, TROLLS and the likes of 'socrates' and his CARTOON
Lou talking again about CARTOON CHARACTERS, your name, starman1,
Then, Lou sends me this email:
Subject: Re: interesting goings on at 'SOCRATES', A-What?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:10:54 IST
Isn't just amazing how this anonymous coward 'socrates' goes about
alienating even those who have tried to be his friend?
Isn't it just interesting that Sooner or later he gets around to attacking
everyone in the chemtrail Community.
This guy is a WORTHLESS POS_big time.
Re: Lophofo Given Admin/Founder Status
New postby socrates on Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:59 pm
In hindsight, it was a mistake to ever make Lophofo a founder. Now I am a
bit paranoid that here and there my posts have been altered. But I have no
proof, and I'd have to go through all my posts to figure that out. I am
glad that I quickly took back his ability to do such things. Why don't I
trust him? He made this fake DrewTerry version a member and then cleared
the admin logs of such activity. Now what kind of excuse can one come up
with to justify that?
Lophofo told me that this Drew said that I was his boss, and that I would
be exposed if he wasn't allowed to make some 9/11 posts.
By the way, this fake DrewTerry was using an ip address coming out of
Boston University. I didn't look into that too much, but then a few days
ago, someone tried to sign up as Joe McCarthy. His email address used was
very similar to that of the fake DrewTerry. His ip was from MIT,
Cambridge. But then I looked into it further, and that ip is called a tor.
That gives people the ability to spoof location.
But I don't think that clears Lophofo one bit. When I saw in the admin
section that Lophofo had cleared the logs, it made me realise that Lophofo
wanted me to think we were hacked again. Why else would he have cleared
the logs? Why would he have tried to hide the fact that he had approved
this fake's membership? That doesn't add up no matter how hard one tries
to crunch the data. I didn't activate him. I never would have. Obviously,
Lophofo wanted me to believe we were hacked. I think he was setting the
stage to take full control of this forum and move it to a new domain he
acquired. We were going to move the forum. For me to think we were hacked
again would have accelerated that process, imho. It would have compelled
me to put even more faith into this person from Utah who believes there is
an illuminati and who wrote that post implying some ******** "weather
wars" angle. Why else would he activate a member and then try to erase
that he had activated the account?????
This makes me wonder about the original hack where unauthorized bumping of
threads took place. Maybe that was an inside job, no pun intended.
Nobody - I mean nobody - pulls the wool over the eyes of a Gambini
He's obviously reading our posts at the forum...and I don't know what
else...PMs at DBS. Is he in with the DoD who have been intercepting my
internet packets...and DDoS'd me a little over a week ago?
Or, is he in with you? See why I have been concerned?
Subject: Re: Re: interesting goings on at 'SOCRATES', A-What?
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:22:33 IST
Sounds like you tried to get a reaction out of him with the 'Drew Terry'
business and it seems to have worked, was it the reaction that you
Socrates the ANONYMOUS COWARD that he is gets pretty paranoid at times
when people get to close to the truth about him, he goes right straight
into his attack and character assassination mode of anyone that he thinks
is on to him.
There he goes with the A-What? Also, you basically said the same thing to
me in a PM at AAANI about DrewTerry. I told you that I had baited you to
"test you" and that your reaction was expected...and that if I had been in
your position that I would have banned me also.
back to the email....
Your right about socrates playing the Spy Vs. Spy Psy Ops head game crap,
so much of his BS is straight out of the right propaganda to use manual, I
swear, he might find one little inconsistency in what someone has to say
and he then blows it all out of proportion into some huge internet HOAX by
FAKES and COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) AGENTS
(as if?), he paints everyone but himself as being part of some RIGGED
internet conspiracy of paid posters (wish I did get paid to post.), I see
all of this crap that comes out of him as being really twisted and blatant
manipulation on his part and the only real person that I know who has this
same MO is none other than the infamous Chemtrail Debunker John Boyd
Reynolds, Jr. AKA, "Jay Reynolds" who lives in Calico Rock, Arkansas.
There he goes using COINTELPRO...a word you always use. Plus, he is
saying Psy Ops head game crap...you say psy-ops.
He mentions "straight out of the right propaganda to use manual"...(keep
in mind at this time that you thought I was still intelligence).
You told me the same thing...that I was using propaganda right out of an
Then, Lou makes a post at DBS trying to bait me to go public against you
with what I know.
Now, you are "eagerly"...almost impatiently...trying to get me to go
public with what I know about Lou and / or others who have been attacking
I know you see the similarities I posted above...so don't deny them. Just
explain, please...how in the world are things so similar..and how are you
and Lou's tactics so alike if something is not going on...if you're not
working with him or for him?
Also, I just tried logging into AAANI and in the background, it started
loading chemtrailcentral.com for a minute...and then it laid AAANI right
on top of it.
WTF!?! Seriously, What the F*CK?
Your whole board, AAANI, is being routed through the USAISC. Do you not
know that? That's right, the United States Army Information Systems
Command in Ft. Huachuca, AZ.
They can read anything on it. They have the entire data. If you want
explanation on how I know this and found it out, I can explain.
It's not safe...the IMs aren't safe. We will need to move the board once
we expose these trolls.
Email only...too bad you don't have secure email. hey, you want me to set
you up a secure email account you can check online?
Let's do it.
I'm not sure if everything he has told me is correct in regards to military ip's checking us out. I did do a reverse ip whois on this forum. It was leading to a military domain before but isn't now. Now for sure we got visits from Case University, and we covered that elsewhere on this forum. We have gotten some visits and extensive ones at that. But here is one reverse ip that leads to a DoD domain- 22.214.171.124. The problem is, the correct ip of 126.96.36.199 is yahoo. So I do see how Lophofo has uncovered stuff, and I do believe this was an authentic reaction of his to getting stalked at his workplace. Unfortunately, he also allows his imagination to get the better of himself. Yahooo is not part of the DoD. It's called a coincidence. Now the phone call is actual concrete evidence. Same with my work on chemtrails and as an amateur, internet cybersleuth. Michael Rivero has been uncovered to have worked for McDonnell Douglas, the largest military contractor at that time. No one but me has figured that out and proven it. I wish I could explain more about this. But without Lophofo's input, I'm not sure what else there is I can provide. I'm certainly not gonna copy and paste all our exchanges. I no longer have access to an email account Lophofo set up for myself, so those emails are gone. I admit that I kind of exploded on him recently, as I was getting tired of his not helping out here. But I did a bit more research, and if he believes he is on course to become a God, well, there's not much more I can say or do. It's unfortunate for ourselves that the main person who could have helped solve all of this convolution is in another cultural zone, one outside of 99% of our grasps. I have always liked Lophofo and wish him the best. He needs to figure out that Joseph Smith and the Latter Day Saints is mythology. No one can become a God. There is God, and then there are ourselves, human beings out in this strange world just trying to do our best to save the planet. That's been my goal since I was 18, to be a hippie peacenik and do my best to make this a better world. Sometimes I wish I was born twenty years sooner. It was cool being part of the older Generation X crowd, but things have gone remarkably downhill since Reagan's counter-revolution. But we can never quit trying. Peace and love are the only options. By the way I never said Lou was in the Navy. That's what "Lou" has claimed. I requested the Navy to tell me if they had any Lou Aubuchont in their records. They never replied back. As for thinking Lophofo was intelligence, I had stumbled across a person I thought was himself who turned out to be Air Force Intelligence. When Lophofo "tested" me with the DrewTerry thing, I tried my best to figure it out. I made a mistake on that one. The two have very similar names and are tangentially linked in a way that really doesn't matter. Recently I did figure out who he is, and I won't reveal his real name, but it does seem that he believes he can become a God according to the Book of Mormon. If he wants to dispute this, he is still a member and can do so. As for Lou claiming I may be Jay Reynolds, that is ludicrous, and "Lou" never believed it. "Lou" isn't the smartest psyop worker on the planet. Otherwise a nobody from Massachusetts nor anyone else would have figured out his game, if he truly was qualified. Is Lou the best and brightest that psyop central is able to find to do their dirty work?