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FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe wrote:starman1 wrote:For the record, this thread was moved from the chemtrails forum to here in freeform by me (starman1), because of the spam like title and intent of the original poster.
I will not feed into the distraction further.
It's spam to introduce a new chemtrail website? Maybe if I had that as a title more than once.
Plus, there were two very good chemtrail stories, well-prepared, pertinent, relevant, and you simply decided to move it because it mentions the problem of the fake believers. You have some of the craziest stuff imaginable being posted at this place, and it is making the chemtrails seem like a crazy, internet hoax.
Two brilliant chemtrail stories chucked into the Kathkasung basement.
While looney thoughts about people wiping out chemtrails with their own minds remains. That is how a place loses its reputation. When whole threads get dungeonized, some even get completely "nuked" like the CTC Changes thread.
Two great stories censored, while chemtrails are kooky materials get the front page.
Big Bunny:Some posters such as Lou are convinced that this is a military operation alone. For some reason Lou has a fixation about the KC-135 refueller aircraft and specialised spray equipment. It is my sincere belief that the so-called "sprayers" are actually any aircraft that utilises either of the aviation fuels JP-A and JP-8 has in effect become a defacto "sprayer". The Devil is in the fuel not the aircraft - to be precise the sulfates in the fuel. This being so the number of aircraft involved nearly equate with your daily air traffic. I am aware of the allegations that specified "unidentified" aircraft criss-cross the sky so as to contaminate the clear skies. Whereas I witnessed a Singapore Airlines aircraft leave a Chemtrail (CT) on leaving Sydney International Airport on a Sunday night in August, 2005. I may be wrong on the date but it is posted somewhere in this great expanse we call Megasprayer. Ontheground you will notice the subtle differences between my statement as opposed to the assertions by Lou and the other conspiracy theorists. You need facts to argue your case, not mere hearsay and a bunch of pretty photos. So in answer to your question, the secret bases that you seek are your local airports and the evil sprayers are your friendly airlines etc.
The real enemies are the corporate stakeholders such as the Oil industry, the Aviation industry and dare I say it the International Banking and Insurance industries.
Chem11: There's a wealth of information in the Research section (as well as general discussion) that documents the direct role sulfate aerosols being loaded into the troposphere by jet aircraft play in creating artificial kloud cover (as well as the intense interest displayed by various corporate stakeholders in promoting these 'polluted clouds' as a fix for global warming, along with many an article on aspiring geoengineering scientists that wish to expand this sulfate loading to the stratosphere).
It may take some time to assimilate, but please feel free to join us in the Research section if you become interested in the subject and wish to contribute any of your own finds on the topic of sulfates in jet fuel and the resulting atmospheric changes (visible and otherwise)....
To put a finer point on it, there exists a consensus here that emphasizes the importance of factual evidence and at least a passing knowledge of atmospheric science. I haven't corresponded with Lois Abuchont in many years (he was working with William Thomas at the time) so I'm not sure what his views are, but I thought I'd seen him post something relevant elsewhere recently... yes, here it is:
users.design.ucla.edu/~akoblin/work/faa/index.htmlI will continue researching, but my gut, eyes, and brain tell me that it's a giant secret, and that if it originated right out of public airports, etc. the secret would be exposed in no time. - Lou
It was, and quite some time ago, I'm afraid. There are plenty of sincere, intelligent people that have been living in manufactured mental spaces provided them by those who wish to keep some pretty basic facts as far away from the general population as possible. This forum's primary objective is to call attention to these facts (pandering to corporate-sponsored memes or pet conspiracy theories is pretty far down the list, I'm afraid).
"et in Arcadia ego"
Jul 18, 2005
supersaturation persistent contrail
Do I think this is the explanation for everything?
Do I think that there's been aerosol spraying incidents over civilian populations?
But I think this potentially plays a big part in what's been seen.
Socrates and I have been trying for a long time to find you and invite you over, NatureisMad. It's really great to finally have you here. But I really want to know. How did you find out about this place? What made you decide to join?
Why have I posted the above? Quite simply because the allegations contained in the original post do not have the substance alleged. The photos relied upon by May41970 are actually repetitive and probably comprise 1 or 2 days of trails upon an indeterminate date. If I can expose this, so can a competent debunker.
may41970 wrote:Why would they lie?
In my first post ever, at CTC, I mentioned heading over to my friend's photo studio on 4/19/06 and asking him to take pictures of the chemtrails. I have never posted these photos onto the net....
In my recent post...I explained that all of the photos were taken by me, over a period of months, from in front of my home.
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