He said I could post them.
Please don't take this as an attack yoyos.
These were our honest reactions to your post.
Don Smith wrote: Re: Shiny objects...
You were quite clear in your handling of ukSherlock, very civil, (God, I love that word!).
Another poster rambled on about the focus of cyber space, shiny objects, etc. You know this site like your own face so you know which one I mean. I am not acting in a "judgemental" way. However, I am always suspicious of those that disparage language on a medium which uses language to communicate. Words are how we think, a greater facility with language leads to an increase in communication skills. The sensual side of our character might be touched by words, but sensory input is a matter of living and feeling, touching and tasting.
The trend toward rejecting language as a counterproductive "intellectual" trick of "authority" is part of my worst memories of the 60's. Critical thinking is what is at stake, we each must be trusted to be our own censors. The poster went on to outline general ideas about community control over their particular environment, how local power is the solution for the problems we face.
The entire world is now "local", this medium which allows us to exchange thoughts and ideas is the most revolutionary thing since literacy.
It will not be possible to hide from the rest of the world in the future, we are all on this little blue marble sailing through time and space, and it is not large enough to fall back on provincial tribal memories.
I studied Wilhelm Reich's theories long ago, I am no expert, though I thought his psychoanalytic insights were brilliant, he lost me as a paranoiac whose manic depression pushed him to "cloud busting" and such. I am sure there is something to be found there, I have yet to meet someone that could explain it without making me reach for my tin foil hat.
socrates wrote: Hi Don,
Before I went on the recent banning binge, I had emailed may41970 first asking for ideas, because me and him ended up fighting a while back because of the knee-jerk banning of "the last name left." One of the reasons i went apeshit over "fakes" is because i never expected to end up starting my own forum. I had 800 posts over at gastronamus. Thought that was gonna be the place to mobilize with others for peace, truth, and justice. but oh well....
Yeah, I was cool with "shitlock" as May41970 calls him. Damn, i even tried to converse about the fungus idea. That made sense to me. you put yeast into the chemtrails then maybe h.a.a.r.p. it? wallah- spreads out?
From memory i am thinking the shiny objects is from the new yoyos post. Yeah, i too was put off a bit by his post. first of all, i liked the beginning of it, but why not start a thread on break for news, put it in astroturfing, post those quotes and throw in a theory or two. But then yes, that whole communal whatever threw me off. it came across as naive or the kind of stuff where people end up saying you can't live alone on a mountain. In a way, it's like the idea of cloudbusters solving chemtrails. Or rednecks with their militias. That ain't gonna get it done.
So yeah, yoyos- he says he has all this proof and stuff on steven hertzberg, yet he doesn't post it, instead he posts hip hop and then throws break for news out there as if anyone really cares about that place. Maybe I am just being an arse and should show some patience.
I had a feeling about Athena88 from the start, but until she threw out the ludicrous "dissolving clouds" comment, there was nothing bannable. sherlock holmes, yeah, he was very easy to ban-- yoyos, if he is disinfo, he is very good at it-- makes it seem he can relate to myself, he reminds me of entropian artifact, just saying enough to make some sense, but always leaving you hanging. I have always been a please spit it out kind of person. ha- like when i said yourself and i forget who else, that ur usernames were collecting dust. sorry about that by the way. Hope I don't piss off yoyos for no good reason.
I don't remember everything here at this forum, but yeah, i've a good sense of what is here. i know what i wrote in ireland years back. i've a good sense of everything i've read and learned. i don't have a photographic memory, but a good sociological imagination that C. Wright Mills spoke of.
Back to yoyos' post. I agree with you. I guess I'll just respond honestly to his post when i get the chance.
By the way, may41970 has finally scanned his taiwan chemtrail pictures, and they are about ready for uploading. we are pm'ing each other. If u saw the post on taiwan and COSMIC, May41970 is arguing that the chemtrails started being noticeable once that joint taiwan/us program started. this proves what we have been saying, what harmon snowe, urself, me, and a bunch who have got driven off of boards have been saying- this is noaa/climate change/enmod too, won't ramble on. But you have helped this place out a lot. You are right that trolls should be ignored. The new strategy I have, actually may41970 too, is that we like to annoy the disinfo- we try not to stoop to their level- me- always working on that- my temper- but uhm, just basically ignoring them, not letting them have any control over this place, presenting the top section as a "best evidence" kind of thing- moving away from talking about fake usernames to talking abour fake real names, if that oxymoron makes any sense. wow, ur email has got the blood in my brain moving, even before the first coffee.
There is hope with the internet. I am not gonna knee jerk ban anyone. some like urself and may, nature'smad, and others, I couldn't ban you even if u made me look bad. not at this point. But yeah, just trying to ban when it makes sense to ban.
This has become a forum in the form of a blog because the real lurkers are wimps and unwilling to help us out, even when they now don't even have to sign up. I am not sure if shitlock and his buddy are paid fakes. There is someone on youtube named p. iasillo who makes good videos and seems real, but then one sees him spamming tinfoil crap, that if we wish it, the chem clouds will clear away. sorry for rambling. it's what i do best.
Yeah, Reich was highlighted in my one seminar paper that got top grades. it was about freedom or fascism- our choice- got into fromm, miller, even wilhelm reich- the mass psychology of fascism. yeah my title sounded similar to the Aaron Russo dude. Anyways, I was talking with my professor one day about Reich, and he said yes, Reich was absolutely brilliant, that he was considered at the top of the field. The orgone stuff is fairly prevalent in that book I just mentioned. One can't help but notice it. But in a way, it was perhaps his way of saying eros versus the death principle. Or how I called chemtrails frankensteinian atmospheric shenanigans. And the idea of orgone didn't seem much different to me at the time than Fromm or Miller or Freud's ideas, not too different. Yeah, it sounded a bit outlandish. So I asked my Prof if he thought there was anything to the orgone. He said , he kind of sighed, mumbled a bit, and went, from my memory trying to paraphrase- Reich was brilliant. that book was brilliant, but nearly all academics dismiss that part as either delusion, mystery or just some kind of literary license.
Ok, Don, nice talking to you. If you have any ideas, suggestions, feel free to add your voice. Maybe this exchange can be added to yoyos' thread.
Don Smith wrote:Post away. My PM wasn't as polished as I would have liked, but then again I don't think a Pullitzer will be given out for the prose that appears here, but maybe.
socrates wrote: ok, I will post this exchange on yoyo's thread.
sorry free forums is such a mess the last few days.
They are working at it.
gonna go post those taiwan pictures.
I wish i was rich. I'd buy this domain, post 8 hours a day.
I think the internet has potential.
I think we have done good.
take it easy.