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Holocaust Denier With Connections! Arrested in London

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Holocaust Denier With Connections! Arrested in London

Unread postby the_last_name_left » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:34 am

Gerald Frederick Toben has been arrested on A Euro arrest warrant at London Heathrow.

Toben is adelaideinstitute.org

Rivero links to adelaideinstitute.org

Toben was at the NO More Wars For Israel conference - which Rivero promoted, and broadcast from, live........

Check out the following quote, and the source :)

Legendary freedom activist Mike Rivero along with Hesham Tillawi broadcast this event live over their radio programs Saturday, super activists Chuck Carlson, Mike Piper, Rabbi Dov Weiss, Paul Fromm, Wendy Campbell, Dr. Frederick Toben, Eileen Fleming, Patrick Grimm and many more patriots were interviewed, you can hear the full audio report below.

http://whitecivilrights.org/index.php?s ... lyhappened

Toben is also called part of "the movement" by Birdman Bryant.

Rivero links to Birdman Bryant too.

Is Rivero "the movement" too? He's certainly not far away from it - he links to all its luminaries - check the names out in the list given by fascist **** Birdman Bryant:

Letter to Willis and Elisabeth Carto On
How to Treat Bad Apples In the Movement
By John "Birdman" Bryant

Dear Mr & Mrs Carto:

I see that you have misunderstood my letter, which is probably at least partly my fault. I can understand how you can see nothing good in Mark Weber, and I can appreciate how you might react strongly to any suggestion to the contrary. Please understand that I am not disputing anything you say about him and am completely sympathetic to your view.

Because it is so important, I would like to try to restate the point I was trying to make which involved mention of Weber, and which you evidently completely misunderstood. Let me first state it in a short form, and then I will go on to expand it. The short form is this:

If we disdain everyone in a leadership position in the Movement against whom there have been serious credible charges, we end up with no Movement.

So who, then, are the major figures against whom serious charges have been leveled? Let us count their numbers:

Person - Accused of - Accuser


David Duke - Stealing/gambling away contributions - - New Orleans DA

William Pierce - Under control of FBI for taking stolen money - Published book

Ernst Zundel - Financial improprieties regarding a will - Willis Carto

Ingrid Rimland - Lying about an encounter with Dr Toben - Toben

Fredrick Toben - Lying about Ingrid Rimland - Ingrid

Kevin Strom - Being under enemy influence -Birdman

Mark Weber - CIA and enemy operative - Willis Carto

Walter Mueller - Severe incompetence & stupidity; homosex - various

Richard Barrett - Pushing homosex; lying; egoism - Jim Giles; Alex Linder

Bill White - Stealing; being a communist - A Linder; R Barrett

Brad Smith - IHR improprieties - Willis Carto

David McCalden - enemy operative - Willis Carto

David Irving - Stealing; Jewish mole - Birdman

Dr Ed Fields - unknown - Willis Carto

Willis Carto - Stealing; 'patriot for profit' - Revilo Oliver & others

In other words, just about all the major figures of the movement have had serious charges made against them, and these are just the ones I know about. The only possible exceptions I can think of are Stormfront's Don Black, the NA's Erich Gliebe, VNN's Alex Linder, Edgar 'The Man Of' Steele, the late 'palindromic professor' Revilo Oliver, myself, and maguire and the other FAEM folks. (All this is off the top of my head; I am probably missing a bunch of people). So the very practical question arises, How are we going to treat the accused folks? My answer is not an 'ethical' one, but purely a PRACTICAL one: Honor people for their good deeds; condemn them for their bad; and in the interim keep a red flag up which says 'If they have been accused, WATCH OUT.' In other words, I am not going around saying that this or that person is 'unethical' and therefore we must reject him; rather I am saying that sometimes people do good and sometimes bad, so -- as BF Skinner might advocate -- I try to reinforce good behavior and negatively reinforce bad behavior. It is my way of dealing with the 'cognitive dissonance' which one experiences when he sees what a huge barrel of seemingly bad apples the Movement is led by.

As to the matter of posting the material on Weber which you sent, I offered to do this because, in reading between the lines of your letter, I thought it was what you wanted me to do. I see now that I was wrong about this, since you have rejected my offer, which is perhaps just as well, as it takes some time and effort to scan the material in, proofread it, and put it in html format.

Tho you evidently did not detect it, the purpose of my letter was to please you. I am sorry that I failed, but I would at least like you to know what you overlooked. I have always honored Willis Carto, and, as he well knows, have defended him against the accusations printed in Walter Mueller's 'Patriot letter'. It pains me that you seem to think I am 'waffling', as there is no one in the Movement -- no one -- who is less guilty of waffling than I, and to say otherwise is simply to show your unfamiliarity with my writing.

I will be posting this letter in my Weekly Letter, and permanently on my website. If you would care to respond, I will be willing to post your response if requested, and/or your prior letter.


http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss ... pples.html

I'm interested to see what response rivero gives to arrest of Toben. Outrage I expect. As if Toben is just some old man minding his own business, and not someone trying to rehabilitate nazism and fantasies about jewish world conspiracy......

Re: Holocaust Denier With Connections! Arrested in London

Unread postby socrates2 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:19 pm

There's no doubt that Rivero is in bed with the neo-nazi movement. He interviews and links to them.

It's fairly clear he is a spook. You think Hal Turner is the only one with direct email contact with the FBI? This is modern day cointelpro. Take any social issue of importance like equality or ending all wars, and you have these fakes spamming the internet with their disinfo filth.

Alleged Holocaust denier held at Heathrow

by Owen Bowcott
October 2 2008


The Buchenwald concentration camp.
Photograph: Arnd Wiegmann/Reuters

An Australian teacher accused of denying the Holocaust was arrested in transit through Heathrow yesterday and held facing extradition to Germany.

Gerald Frederick Töben, 64, who was en route from the US to Dubai when he was seized, was sentenced to nine months in prison in 1999 by a German court under a law that prohibits "defaming the dead".

He was held under a German arrest warrant, issued in 2004, which alleges that he had carried out "worldwide internet publication" of material that was antisemitic, and denied, approved or played down the mass murder of Jews perpetrated by the Nazis during the second world war. The warrant stated that he had committed the offences in "Australia, Germany and other countries".

Töben appeared before Westminster magistrates court, where prosecutor Tina Whybraw said that when police boarded the plane Töben was seen to move seat to avoid detection and told officers that "you can't arrest me on British soil".

The court failed to establish whether he had served the sentence in Germany or had absconded before he could be imprisoned.

District judge Nicholas Evans remanded Töben in custody until tomorrow, when he will appear again. Before he was taken out of court Töben replied: "It's a done deal between Britain and Germany. This is an insult. I'm a teacher."

Töben is already awaiting the outcome of a court case in southern Australia where his privately funded Adelaide Institute is accused of publishing antisemitic material and opposing the historical truth about the Holocaust.

Last year, Töben said he had been allowed to visit London to see his son. On another occasion he had been stopped in Helsinki but was permitted to travel on to Russia to attend a conference. He is alleged to have attended a recent international conference in Iran that questioned the historical accuracy of Nazi war crimes against Jews.

In a 2005 interview with Iranian state television he said: "The Holocaust equals a lie. Therefore Israel is built on a lie."

Wearing a black suit and peering over reading glasses, Töben addressed the court from behind a glass screen yesterday. He did not deny who he was.

"Dr Töben has been caught in London," he said.

He objected to the terms of the warrant, claimed that Britain should not be able to hand him over because it was not in the Schengen agreement and said he had been slandered for his views.

He said he was on a research trip to South Africa, where he was hoping to interview a descendant of Napoleon about whom he was planning to write a book.

"Jewish groups in Australia," he said, were "trying to close down the Adelaide Institute website."

He said he had sought permission from the court in Australia before leaving the country.

"This is an abuse of process. This is a legal ambush. It's not British law where the individual still has freedoms," he told the court.

"It's a witch-trial mentality in Germany concerning this matter. I was under the impression that if I transited [the UK] I would be fine. There was no reason for me to suspect that anything should happen to me.

"The Schengen agreement protected me. Britain has not the Holocaust denier laws that Germany has so they are slipping [this offence] in as a race hatred and cybercrime."

He pleaded with the district judge that he should be released and not sent on to Germany.

"I beg you to let me leave the country, to kick me out, I promise never to return."

Objecting to bail, the prosecutor said that Töben could face up to five years in prison for the offence and was likely to abscond if freed from the court.

His passport had numerous foreign visas and travel stamps in it, from Zimbabwe, China, Iran, Germany and others, Whybraw said.

Born in Germany in June 1944, Töben is the author of eight books. After completing a PhD at the University of Stuttgart in 1977, he taught at secondary schools and colleges in New Zealand, Germany, Rhodesia and Nigeria.
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